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  1. Sander

    Feminism and why it's bad.

    The first link says that the magazine will not be distributed at a specific fair, which is a far cry from being "banned" -- and note that the student union, not a "leftist administration" is doing that. The video talks about one incident eleven years ago of people stealing the Yale Free Press...
  2. Sander

    Feminism and why it's bad.

    None of these things are happening, though. Curricula are not being changed to accommodate traumatized students -- hell, trigger warnings are pretty damn rare right now, let alone actual adjustments. And trigger warnings are not there to eliminate material from the curriculum (then we'd call...
  3. Sander

    Feminism and why it's bad.

    That is a nice collection of paranoid reactions there, Akratus. A really good example of exactly the kind of paranoia I'm talking about. That is: people freaking out about some symbolic gestures. Books aren't being banned. Research isn't being stymied. Trigger warnings aren't preventing teachers...
  4. Sander

    Feminism and why it's bad.

    Yes, it's a minority that cares and understands. But that minority is growing, is far larger than it was, and privilege and power are now a mainstream part of discourse where they weren't just a decade ago (even though they had been in academia for half a century -- society is lagging). You...
  5. Sander

    Feminism and why it's bad.

    @Hassknecht: You personally hate the movement, but you do get the terms. Heck, you even seem to agree with them. And so do a whole lot of other people. As I said: these definitions are mainstream, now. How is that a failure? Because power relations and the status quo. The entire school...
  6. Sander

    Feminism and why it's bad.

    @Hassknecht: Is the PR department really shit, though? The concept of privilege is a mainstream part of discourse, now. It wasn't a decade ago. The notion that racism and sexism have power elements is similarly mainstream -- you won't catch any mainstream publication talking about "anti-white...
  7. Sander

    Feminism and why it's bad.

    This would have been had I caught it when it first started. When I caught it, it had turned into something useful.
  8. Sander

    Feminism and why it's bad.

    Because OP's intentions didn't determine the course of this thread.
  9. Sander

    Feminism and why it's bad.

    "When it comes to male oriented work cultures. No one's really shunning them out" :confused: "That is why in the United States, as a whole, the median weekly pay for full-time working women is currently $721 and for full-time working men $889" (That's 81 cents on the dollar, but you get my...
  10. Sander

    Feminism and why it's bad.

    If pay were actually equal, we would find as many places where women earned more money than men as we would the other way around -- because that's how random chance works. Instead, we get people questioning every single time they can find a single example of women earning more than men. Isn't...
  11. Sander

    Feminism and why it's bad.

    71 million men 20 years and older were employed in 2009 versus 64 million women, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That includes part-time workers. So......nope? Sure, that's the context in which we're discussing this because that's where most of the research is done. A lot of those...
  12. Sander

    Feminism and why it's bad.

    Actually, those articles state that there is a pay gap -- all of them concede that as a group, full-time working women are paid less than men -- they just say that they think the reasons for the existence of that pay gap don't present a problem, because it's a result of women's choices. Now, the...
  13. Sander

    Feminism and why it's bad.

    No, there is a pay gap. Women earn far less than men. That's a simple statistical fact. The only controversy is over the reasons for that pay gap. The academic consensus is simply that it's a mix of factors: discrimination, sexual harassment, overtime work, family work, gender roles, education...
  14. Sander

    Feminism and why it's bad.

    Like correcting the gender pay gap, like fighting persistent sexual assault, like fighting for the right to define your gender how you wish, like fighting continued gender discrimination in the workplace, like fighting rape, like educating people on sexual consent, like expanding possible gender...
  15. Sander

    Feminism and why it's bad.

    Also note that the notion that women live under sharia law in the middle east is largely untrue ("the middle east" is not a monolith), and that they have "no rights" is also inaccurate. In any case, most of modern feminism thinks the best way to support oppressed women in other spheres is not by...
  16. Sander

    Feminism and why it's bad.

    People fighting for gender equality in the west means that they don't want gender equality elsewhere, now?
  17. Sander

    I don't understand complaints about Beth's take on pre-war society

    Actually, he presents a realistic scenario: that these are people who represent society's elite and are therefore still living comfortably. After all, they have vault passes. They have robots. It is not unthinkable that even with the "breakdown society" such enclaves would continue to exist.
  18. Sander

    Twelve not allowed angry mutants

    The revisionist history is strong in this thread.
  19. Sander

    I don't understand complaints about Beth's take on pre-war society

    No one's "dictating" anything, though. No one here has any kind of power to do so. They're airing their opinions about what they'd like to see. It should also be noted that Fallout was always an amalgamation of many different inspirations. The core of it was certainly a 1950s vision of the...
  20. Sander

    @sander

    What even this thread
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