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Think about it this way In 20 years, we changed the very cultural fabric of Afghanistan. People say 20 years when we spent 40 propping up S. Korea. People scream 2500 dead when we threw 40 thousand lives in S. Korea. And guess what? While we didn't have unity' we kept S. Korea up till this...

The girls robotics team we're fortunate they were well known and had some form of connections with the right people . And yeah we got involved and started this mess so that's why it was important to not just throw in the towel like that. Trump might have started this mess but Bidens the one...

But why would trans men OR women, care? I thought their whole point was inclusion? Lets argue that we eliminated the men and women titles in bathrooms, and all bathrooms were unisex, would it matter then? Is it just the titles? The compromise comes in the form of increased prices or taxes...

Yeah, I highly doubt you would find many American or people in general, who think that a corporate republic is actually beneficial to anyone.

This is the more logical definition. I speak of the progressives and dems that think my example IS corporatism.

Wally Corporatism Tell that to progressives or dems who think any voter who isn't for the immediate elimination of fossil fuels l is a corporatist energy stooge. Or that any businesses investing into poor neighborhoods is corporations trying to gentrify and take over.

How is it not satisfying for both sides? Your a man thay doesn't want women in a place where you piss/shit, you go to MENS room. A woman? Womens room. Then you have a bathroom where you simply don't give a fuck.

Very important hand washing is.

Or, maybe its an extra CHOICE? Who says I am doing away with men and womens bathrooms? Kind of an extreme assumption to make in my opinion.

Crni and Squid All jokes aside, I clearly spoke of compromise in the context of LOCAL politics. Even progressives hate Stalinism duh. I compromised already. Those folks can call me whatever they hell they want as long as they do not try to make it illegal to express my opinion.

Morgan In the context of American politics, the trans issue for example, would be unisex bathrooms. Immigration? Creating additional pathways to American citizenship rather than blanket amnesty for illegals. UHC for health issues that bankrupt your average American. Its not that hard really...

The thing is though I am American so my politics reflect that view. If it makes you happy, just replace the word leftists with progressives and liberals with dems. I consider myself more centrist with right leanings but to many who disagree with me I would be a bigot/transphobe/corporatist...

Crni I don't understand. Are you saying we shouldn't have kicked out the Taliban?

I used the Marshall Plan as an example of what we needed to do to rebuild Europe or the money we found to help rebuild Japan. What I am saying is essentially Europe and Japan were worth rebuilding due to geopolitics but Afghanistan isn't. Afghanistan doesn't have the resources nor the location...

There would be no better outcome with a pullout. We did a pullout in Iraq and ISIS went bonkers. Obama had to surge troops back in. Looks like koombayaj hippy bullshit doesn't work. The Taliban had always been ruthless folks who only really respected violence and force. From their basic and...

I am more for the incompetence and bad luck route than intentional sabotage or apathy. So one thing that is well known is the Afghan air power issue. The Afghanis were both trained to operate, maintain and utilize Russian helicopters effectively. These are what the government wanted. We were...

Crni Sure we had the cities only but those are where the biggest concentration of people are anyways. I think getting Afghanistan self sufficient, at least the cities, was part of the goal even though we weren't doing a very good job of it. I think our leaders underestimated the amount of...

You have to remember that most of those 'picked', by Trump were often let go or quit. They did just enough to gain his confidence and then did their jobs.

Obviously nobody does anything for free. Both the U.S, Russia and China do things quid pro quo. With this in mind however, at least Afghans had 2 decades free from religious police and theocracy. Were it the Russians or the Chinese, they wouldn't have cared what the Taliban did as long as...

Differences sure but hardly insurmountable. What it really boils down to is effort. What is Afghanistan truly worth? We got our answer.