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If you make a detailed list of everything about fallout and compared it to a detailed list of everything about fallout 3 you would have more similarities than differences. It is your intent to prove that the differences are more important than the similarities and that can not be done objectively.

I don't get it. Maybe I should have said "relative dearth". Way more King Arthur castles than Don Johnson wastelands. All I was saying. Maybe, but you might be more forgiving and optimistic if the setting was more important than the camera angle (oversimplifying, I know). Anyway, it...

For the record, I wasn't trying to rope anyone into something with my question, It was an honest question. As far as it being a terrible hypothetical, I think most people have a preference, if you don't have a preference I don't expect an answer. I'll narrow it down though, excluding only...

Here's why it has to come down to personal preference: otherwise, you're saying Fallout fans who look forward to Fallout 3 do so because they like the "wrong things" about Fallout. Do you see how that becomes a problem? Maybe I don't know what counts as trolling, but I'm not saying these...

Okay. That's what I suspected, I guess. I like post-nuclear roleplaying (partly because sword and sorcery have glutted the market for...ever) more than I dislike real time first person games. You guys dislike real-time first person games more than post-nuclear roleplaying. That's an equation I...

Open query: All things being equal, would you be more excited about an isometric turn-based game in the sword and sorcery genre or a real time first person game in the post-nuclear genre? I'll go first: post-nuclear.

It was useless for anything but nostalgic fun. You couldn't drive in tunnels or complete the majority of missions using overhead. The isometric view in Fallout seems to similarly exist purely for nostalgia. Comparison apt!

Look, I'll give you that one. Thank you for latching on to the weakest, most inconsequential and most poorly worded argument though. You know Brother None and I have written a small novel in this thread right?

So, if it's in first person and it has shooting, it's a first person shooter - right? So, if it's top down and has shooting...? As far as how the videos look, explain a realistic way of showing first person combat with fallout's weapons without it looking like an FPS at a glance.

Sorry, my edit didn't go through quite in time. It wasn't MORE of an action game, but it's action was a big appeal for a lot of people.

Really, I think the fact that Fallout: Tactics exists shows that Fallout was pretty action oriented. Edit: But obviously more RPG oriented in general. Oh, and Fallout 3 is an RPG with a First Person viewpoint. It's not a First Person Shooter anymore than Fallout was a Top-Down Shooter...

Hyuck! Shore do!

That's such a non argument I can't believe I have to clarify. Can you argue that it isn't the ultimate goal? Being there as some cooler dude in a hat?

First of all, you play these games because you enjoy them, stigmatizing "fun" just makes you sound pretentious. I'm not a Jerry Bruckheimer fan, I'm not an unwashed hun, I think videogames should be fun. Hint: So does everybody. I know you mean "fun at the expense of" etc. etc. but come on, can...

To be fair, I wasn't reaching back to 1994 to uncover the origins of their empire, I was making a relevant comment on their trajectory as it pertained to the game in question. I want you to know that I am genuinely interested in finding out what integral elements Fallout 3 will lack. I count...

No, it would be a straw man argument. But I guess that's your point. Wow, genetic fallacy! Arguing with you is like taking an intro course in communications. The fact is that whether you like Oblivion or not, it was very close to P&P emulation, both in a relative sense against other major...

I've never played pen and paper role-playing games (well, one lunch period in 7th grade). Most of society 20 years ago had never played pen and paper role-playing games, even less play them now. It is unrealistic to expect videogame developers to cater specifically to such a small demographic...

Well, firstly it's in a different sub-genre at most. The RPG will trump the FPS, even if it were just a re-skinned Oblivion that would be true. Secondly, Fallout's charm wasn't in it's combat system, it was in it's settings and characters and style. As a Fallout fan that was not a fan of any...