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    Would you have supported renaming the Brahim if ..

    @Walpkunt: Your posts fall into these categories: 1> Early posts: You disagree, which is fine, this is what the debate is for. 2> Giving examples like: This offends Walpkunt so remove this. It just proves that you are easier to offend than me. I am only talking about one thing that has offended...
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    It is valid argument because many constitutions and legal systems in the world are based on the Social Contract and it explicitly talks about rights. I think freedom of speech is misused when one uses it to address real religions in video games. All the examples people are giving about games...
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    I think my posts are locked on Bethesda because they only believe in their freedom of speech. Look at the poll numbers, do you really think I were 'drumming up fake Internet outrage', I would not get more than 2 votes? I can get more than 2 votes in my own house!
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    No I am not offended by the Shiva Start pulse-power-device. Every religious belief deserves to be mocked, and every sensibility needs to be offended. That includes atheism and its various offsprings.: That's a good scientific attitude. Whether we like it or not, religions are not scientific...
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    @Crni Vuk: It will be great if Bethesda were to have something like that in the beginning splash screen, that will solve this problem.
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    1> First fallout game I played. 2> Till before Fallout 3 when Bethesda was not aware of, the name choice was unintentional. After Fallout 3 release they knew.
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    @Wwhirlindervish: No problem there. Alcohol and sex are not bad things and I cannot kill them, eat their meat, use their hide and hold alcohol/sex massacres.
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    These are all good points. I would think that if one is writing a fictional tale, I would be more worried about creating the atmosphere, the characters and the plot. Why would I start with a well-known figure like Regan/Clinton/Trump anybody like that and develop a story around it, unless I...
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    Like 100 years ancient vs 5000 years ancient?
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    Would you have supported renaming the Brahim if ..

    Glad I could entertain you. I am not able to enforce anything, it is either voluntary or job of the courts to hear and decide. I do not think world revolves around my beliefs. Maybe you think it revolves around yours and bring in that theist/atheist divide. I believe that theist borrow from a...
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    No I am just pointing to the fact that they do not care about their users or resolving issues or have the guts to even have position statement on this known issue. Exactly what the next post says with lot of anger thrown in to boot.
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    Would you have supported renaming the Brahim if ..

    I value your opinion and agree that there was no a malicious intent in the original naming. However they knew after Fallout 3 got banned in India and there is not even an official position statement on their site. There is no one to contact, gets directed to 'tech support' and their forums...
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    I would have loved to discuss this but I do not see this in Fallout 4 so I will pass.
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    Would you have supported renaming the Brahim if ..

    I know, good joke, right? No probs, no offense taken and nothing personal, I know that debates on topics like this are going to get heated. 1> We will never agree on the Brahman cow argument I at least I am moving on from that. 2> I do not claim to speak on behalf of all the hindus. One Hindu...
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    Do you have any logical argument about the etymological root of all the Br* words? The particular Br* words are Sanskrit loanwords that were applied recklessly during the Colonial times. I am not outraged, All my posts have used civil language and made logical arguments. You have the right not...
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    You are sounding like a broken record with no real argument to offer. If limiting revenue base of a video game sounds rational and logical to you, good luck. If offending religions sounds rational and logical to you because you are an atheist or because it is done as many times as you pointed by...
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    Would you have supported renaming the Brahim if ..

    I know that may be the case in Fallout. The brahma cattle was first bred in 1910-1920. The world reality then was different. Have seen it called Brahma and Brahman but not Brahmin. Also cattle is not a mass-media that reaches 100 million people in the form of entertainment, only as processed...
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    The religious debate is needed because the original fallout used a religious hum icon, perhaps inadvertently, as a butcher-able deformed animal. This was not corrected even after Bethesda knew about it at least since Fallout 3 release and did nothing. So a corrective action should at least be...
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    No dude, I am not looking for something to be outraged at. Gandhi's personality in CIV5 is not a bug. You can play him and choose to do none of those things. You know Gandhi loved Goat milk and cheese etc, but in CIV 5, it was not a goat that was called Gandhi, it was a human being. In CIV5 all...
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    There will never be 100% consensus on offensiveness. There will be some people who would not mind. In ideal world the criteria should be ethics based, on the practical side it is a revenue decision. Offending someone will give you people drawn to the sensational. Offending the minimum would net...
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