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I really really cannot express how little this matters because I guaran-fucking-tee they weren't gonna offscreen it in some random spinoff that isn't even a mainline game. Who would do that? That would be crazy. Maybe avellone would've been able to make a cool story out of the fall of the NCR...

I don't understand why they wouldn't just reboot instead of stretching all this old shit so thin

"But his PR statements" OK. Actions speak louder than words. His games and TV show he let happen have shown no respect to it and in fact trample on it maliciously.

Well between refusing to work with obsidian again, shitting on new vegas in 4, and letting the TV show ruin new vegas entirely rendering the entire game moot its hard to accept it as pure incompetence Also jbrams trek is hardly a favorable comparison ever

I disagree. there was nothing 50s about pre war fallout outside of some retrofuturistc designs

dang thats crazy. bombs dropped in 2277 tho so uhhhh

why would you want to? ideally pre war anything would never be brought up ever outside of as a curiosity of a mysterious world gone by

this is like blaming your brother for getting your permission to do something that got him in trouble when mom left you in charge. which is to say it doesnt matter you were in charge and gave permission its still your fault

I think the getting to interact with mundane low/high level bureaucracy and history is why I loved fallout , new vegas and morrowind so much and it was this post that made me consciously aware of it. "Graves isn't a troll" may be the hottest take I've ever seen but thanks.

>there were only 700,000 people across 3 states and parts of mexico ???

And people call me contrarian

i will always hate this idea forever. replacing handcrafted content with randomly generated nonsense is gay and cringe

Destroying one town should not delete an entire government that spans 3 states that's fucking stupid It's star trek blowing up Romulus all over again

Lmao? Ncr is the whole of California, some of oregano, nevada and parts of mexico. Sometimes I wonder if you even played these games my guy I mean 2 kinda did. The only thing that's in it as it was in the original is some of the creatures. Older factions either weren't present or had evolved...

ah my apologies (i didnt watch the show and havent interacted with any fallout media since 2017)

That's uh why we don't like what fallout is now.

I still say we make our own TCs with good continuity and new shit

Well there's no Date under the explosion so I guess it never happened The fact that this argument has gone on as long as at has across the entire fanbase is proof enough that it was and is ambiguous contradictory garbage

your brain doesnt work correctly thats all im gonna say. when you definitvely say that 1/4 main endings doesnt matter a few months after it happens at most its bad. its alienating to a lot of players and it also goes a long way to regressing the setting since the NCR is replaced with nothign...

cant wait for in fallout 5 where the enclave returns from the moon and theyre led by the president of vault tec who want to sell people nukes so they can make more munny and uh use the money to idk make clones so pure humans can exist again. then fallout 6 is the vaultcave vs the zetan...