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thanks for the quick response! no, I haven't finished the orphanage quest yet, need better speech first. And I tried leaving and coming back through the world screen after being taken to the church, and that just automatically finishes it for me, still no tyler but at least i can complete it if...

I'm having a bug with the last part of Lara's quest, but it seems like nobody else has had it. It's the part where I attack Tyler's gang, but when I agree to help her and get teleported over to the church, Tyler's gang isn't there. When I talk to Lara at the church she says we already took care...