Politics is Depressing

quietfanatic

Ancient One
In our election the Labor Party had a positive campaign, concentrating on health, education and the environment.

The Liberal Party (really conservative) had a simple scare campaign claiming that they would continue their strong economic management and keep interest rates low (disregarding the fact that Australian politicians cannot control world economics however much they would like to) and that the social reform of Labour would automatically lead to economic meltdown.

Because people are ignorant, fearful bastards, John Howard won a record fourth term, and what is worse is the conservatives now practically control the senate (upper house) as well. This means that they can do whatever they want. Howard will be happy as now he can try to destroy the trade unions and workers compensation, sell the monopoly of our telecommunications company Telstra, continue to destroy old growth forrests and let American media moguls and big business take over (to name but a few of his initiatives).

Bush and Blair were keen to congratulate him, that other member of the coalition of the willing (although we didn't want war and our 'partners' always forget Australia, although terrorists won't).

I am very disappointed with the cynical ignorance of my fellow countrymen, and even though support for the Greens increased, it was nowhere near as much as I would have liked.

I only hope that this disturbing trend is not repeated. Bush and Howard together once more would make the world a much more dangerous and unjust place.
 
quietfanatic said:
Because people are ignorant, fearful bastards,

It's not just them. I place most of the blame for many government failures on voter or constituent apathy. With the election coming up in the US, I often ask friends if they even know who their representatives are. Most don't know who their congressman is. Even fewer know the voting records or platform of the candidates running. I know there are different types of involvement when it comes to democracy. I have never been a take to the streets, volunteer type. But I am one who does my homework and tries to make some kind of educated choice. I don't know how to solve the problem of apathy but I know overall it hurts the process.
 
Sorry to hear it Quietfanatic.

Welcome to more of Bushworld. Hopefully our guy will be toppled and the political center will begin to swing back towards the middle or even a bit to the left.

Keep your fingers crossed.
 
of corse kerry will solve everything, he is just s ooo charming :roll:
not to mention his admirable voting record in the senate :roll:
nahh why give more money to national security. :roll:
and we all know that a swing towards the left is a good thing :twisted: there is no need for guns just let the police protect you, it only takes 10-30 minutes for them to arrive. meh why make those loosers get a job, we will hold him up while he supports his drug habits. of corse we need to include abortion into the state medical plan. meh who cares about national SECURITY anyways, if we have a super economy terrorists will just have more to destroy. O WHAT ON EARTH DID "WE" DO TO THE TERRORISTS TO MAKE THEM WANT TO ATTACK US. :roll: LETS ALL GO OUT AND waist OUR TIME WATCHING USELESS MIKE MORE FLICKS AND CALL WHAT HE SAYS DOCTRINE AND TRUTH, INSTEAD OF EXTREME POLITICAL b. s..

YES A SWING TO THE LEFT IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING. :roll:
 
bob_the_rambler said:
of corse kerry will solve everything, he is just s ooo charming :roll:
Charming has nothing to do with solving everything, and most people think Bush is more charming than Kerry.
not to mention his admirable voting record in the senate :roll:
nahh why give more money to national security. :roll:
For those who agree with him, it IS admirable.
and we all know that a swing towards the left is a good thing :twisted:
Yes, it is.
Depending on what left you mean, of course.
there is no need for guns just let the police protect you, it only takes 10-30 minutes for them to arrive.
He does not want to ban guns. Learn your facts before posting.
meh why make those loosers get a job, we will hold him up while he supports his drug habits.
You fail to grasp even the basic meaning of social security.
of corse we need to include abortion into the state medical plan.
And why not? Would you rather that women stick hangers up their private parts than be helped by a professional doctor?
meh who cares about national SECURITY anyways, if we have a super economy terrorists will just have more to destroy.
Kerry is in favor of stopping the terrorists, but against going after people who have nothing to do with them. Again: learn your facts.
O WHAT ON EARTH DID "WE" DO TO THE TERRORISTS TO MAKE THEM WANT TO ATTACK US. :roll: LETS ALL GO OUT AND waist OUR TIME WATCHING USELESS MIKE MORE FLICKS AND CALL WHAT HE SAYS DOCTRINE AND TRUTH, INSTEAD OF EXTREME POLITICAL b. s..
Kerry doesn't support Michael Moore, nor is Michael Moore in any way a decent person or documentary-maker.

YES A SWING TO THE LEFT IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING. :roll:
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For someone who claims to be really really smart your arguments make extremely little sense, and you do an incredible job at making yourself look stupid.
 
Generally, anybody that claims to be smart usually isn't. If you think you understand everything, you really don't.
 
did i claim to be smart? im not saying the kerry in particular whats to ban guns just the extreme leftist element. i understand social security, and i wasn't talking about it, i was talking about food stamps and that sortta thing. im not heartless i always give money to people that are down on their luck and some times even more like say a shirt and a hat as well. food stamps as a program spelled out on paper is a great idea, but some how there is a leak in our system i have seen time and time again illegals getting food stamps and then turning around and selling them. i disagree with abortion in 9 out of 10 cases, rape and incest are some viable reasons for abortion, but other than that i am totally against it. i dont want to as a tax payer have to pay for some girl who slept around to kill her child.

as for making myself sound stupid, i dont really care what you think sander. your really kinda Anal anyways, bad temper.
 
You cannot negotiate with fundamentalists, only try (however impossibly) to make them think more about what they believe, and listen to what others think (never forgetting your sense of humour). I am going to go and study for my HSC next week, so have fun and don't take things too seriously. Moderation is the best way to go. /end bs
 
bob_the_rambler said:
did i claim to be smart?[/qyuote]
Yes, not here, but in other threads, you have.

im not saying the kerry in particular whats to ban guns
Let's see, you were talking about Kerry, and then made a sarcastic remark about banning guns. Learn to use your language properly (I'm not talking about your spelling)
just the extreme leftist element.
And there's a good point to be made for banning all guns, but any discussion about it ends up in insults, or in nothing, so let's not get into that.
i understand social security, and i wasn't talking about it,
Then, again, learn to use your language properly.
i was talking about food stamps and that sortta thing.
Yet you never actually talked about them.
im not heartless i always give money to people that are down on their luck and some times even more like say a shirt and a hat as well.
And I never said you were.
food stamps as a program spelled out on paper is a great idea, but some how there is a leak in our system i have seen time and time again illegals getting food stamps and then turning around and selling them.
So, basically, you're saying that completely killing a system is better than fixing it. Interesting...
i disagree with abortion in 9 out of 10 cases, rape and incest are some viable reasons for abortion, but other than that i am totally against it. i dont want to as a tax payer have to pay for some girl who slept around to kill her child.
So you'd rather she killed herself with an infection in an improvised attempt to "kill" her child.

as for making myself sound stupid, i dont really care what you think sander. your really kinda Anal anyways, bad temper.
Thanks mate. Really the best reponse after saying you don't care about insults is insulting back.
 
im not saying the kerry in particular whats to ban guns just the extreme leftist element.

You know, contrary to what Bush has said, Kerry isn't the most liberal voter in the Senate. Far from it.

but any discussion about it ends up in insults, or in nothing,

Because there's a good point for not banning guns. :P
 
You know, contrary to what Bush has said, Kerry isn't the most liberal voter in the Senate. Far from it.

He is this year, but that's misleading, because, while being on campaign, the only votes he's showed up for are the ones where the Republicans looked to be winning something big.
 
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