RE: Ha!
>My, my, aren't we being a
>little touchy? You people should
>learn not to assume so
>much, just because I don't
>agree with a stupid joke
>(and it is pure stupidity/ignorance
>that creates a "joke" like
>that), that doesn't make me
>an enemy of the state.
>Heck, I happen to feel
>the USA is making some
>mistakes, that doesn't mean I
>consider it evil incarnate. Really,
>I'm just trying to slide
>in a bit of constructive
>criticism to stem the eternal
>flows of anti-Osama pro-American babble.
>Hearing one side of discussion
>is never good, even if
>it is "right"
But you see Kharn, you're not sliding in "constructive" criticism, constructive criticism would be in the form of:
"In the minds of the al-Qaeda, we are the terrorists. As violent as their supposed attack on the United States was, in their minds we have violated their position, and their only way to fight back, since they do not have the influence and power of the United States, is to terrorize our citizens. Palestinians really don't hate America. What they dislike about America is not the American life, but that we are hypocrits in that we support democratic rule and 'freedom' but still support countries like Israel who treat Palestinians as a subordinant class in society, and support leaders of countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia who are no elected by the populace and rule with distinctly non-democratic, non-free methods. America chooses its allies and its sides in its best interest as any smart nation would, but that rubs people the wrong way in the process."
*THAT* is constructive criticism, not, and I quote you Kharn:
"You're fucking kidding me, I hope? USA DESERVED this. I'm very sorry for all those innocents dying, but for God's sake, what goes around comes around. You can't act boss of the world without someone biting back."
>And hate America? Heck no. It's
>a country with great ideals
>and a nice population (albeit
>a bit panicky. Soberness is
>a virtue).
Oh yes, you expect us to be calm when three of our major buildings and symbolic institutions were attacked by terrorists who hijacked domestic airliners and crashed them into the buildings? Oh yes, Kharn, that DEFINITELY is the time to sit down with a pot of tea and "talk it all out." Sure, in hind-sight and three-steps and a country removed it always seems better to "talk it out," but we're talking the real world here.
You live in Belgium a country which hasn't had a major incident in it since *World War II*, and might I add, took a neutral side (like it does all the time). No, I don't think your country has panicked in a LONG time, probably long enough to forget what panic means.
Please don't talk about "panic" if you don't know what panic really means, or war for that matter.
>But when it
>starts bombing a country into
>oblivion, I tend to be
>rather sceptical towards it's righteousness.
Really, into oblivion? If we were leveling Afghanistan, I don't think we'd spend the time to drop food for the people there for fear many will die from the harsh winters they have there.
I mean, Mohamed Heikal, the Arab world's foremost political commentator, commented that there isn't *anything* in Afghanistan, even the royal palace, that is WORTH using a $1 Million cruise missile.
>Still, the intention of the bombing
>is good, what actually REALLY
>gets under my skin is
>the tons of American propaganda
>that I see EVERWHERE!
Really, care to list some?
>I
>wish we'd at least get
>the chance to make our
>own opinion, this is just
>so...I don't know...totalitarian.
One does not yell fire in a crowded theatre and expect no retribution, "Allah is a pig" in Mecca, or start rambling on about how a nation diserved an attack on its citizens. No citizens diserved attacks like that, even those who praise such attacks.
>Oh, dear, not that I mean
>America is totalitarian. Far from
>it, it's not like the
>government is ORDERING this propaganda,
>but the news these days
>is just so incredibly biased,
>it annoys me.
Oh really? Last I recall, the news stations were going through great lengths to emphasize that the few images of Palestinians celebrating the attacks were not indicative of the entire country. Last I recall, Dateline was reporting on what the people of Islam, both here and in other countries, including Afganistan and Palestine thought.
>Not that
>you could expect any else.
Then why are you complaining?
>And DarkUnderlord: Heck no, I'm not
>trying to protect the Taliban.
>Far from it, they're evil
>as hell, but they're also
Even there you are spreading your own propaganda.
-Xotor-
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