Do you think modern civilization is doomed to fall?

Sn1p3r187

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I've thought about it for most of the morning. And noticed some trends with many great civilizations. Besides the fact they all fall eventually or turn into something different that's unrecognizable. So I thought the same of modern civilization. So what do you guys think? Are we?
 
The fall of our modern civilisations is inevitable just like how the fall of humanity is inevitable, it'll take a while but it'll happen.
 
I don't think it's doomed to fall, and neither is humanity. There might be some serious powershifts in the future, maybe even revolts and revolutions, but no cataclysmic collapse of society. Civilisation has spread too far, especially its knowledge, so a complete cultural change as with the "fall" of the Western Roman Empire is highly unlikely if not for something unforeseeable like an asteroid or something.
Society is so large and connected by now that I think it can adapt to most changes without radically changing the basic principles of life like it happened in the Late Antiquities. The aforementioned spread of knowledge, the decentralisation of it will prevent that something like the destructions of the Library of Baghdad or Alexandria could have a comparably cataclysmic contempary event. Too much redundancy.
As I said, there could be social unrest, though. With growing tensions between the political leanings and cultural clashes between West and Middle East there could be some significant social change, but I don't think it would result in an actual "fall".
For a full collapse too many factors would have to come together: Massive pressure in society building up and some heavy restrictions to quality of life, like heavy cataclysmic climate change or massive crop failures.
In a way this happened in Syria: They had crop failures, resulting in rising tensions against the regime and finally the civil war that paved the way for radical groups to take hold.
But it doesn't have to happen, and personally I'm quite optimistic that civilisation will continue for quite a while. I'm still hopeful that some of the dark horse fusion power concepts might actually hold up and result in solving the energy problem.
But maybe the western world will collapse into civil wars, who knows. Maybe there'll be dystopian regimes of many kinds in the near future, maybe the Singularity happens and we'll be either obsolete or thrown into infinite prosperity.
I just don't think a collapse is inevitable.
 
I think we've reached the point at which civilization can't really "fall" unless we end up in a nuclear war or if an asteroid destroys the planet. We're not going to end up like the Romans. I just can't see it happening (Famous last words I know).
 
I think we've reached the point at which civilization can't really "fall" unless we end up in a nuclear war or if an asteroid destroys the planet. We're not going to end up like the Romans. I just can't see it happening (Famous last words I know).
Exactly. It's "too big to fail".
Well, it's hard to tell as always, especially from the perspective of a singular person.
 
I think the collapse is imminent, which is why I am a Doomsday Prepper/survivalist. I am training to make fire, hunt, carve, build shelter and more.
Exactly. It's "too big to fail".
Well, it's hard to tell as always, especially from the perspective of a singular person.
I disagree, I bet a lot of people up at the top are shitting themselves about people figuring out how hard they are bent over and being fucked by corporations and the New World Order.
 
I think the collapse is imminent, which is why I am a Doomsday Prepper/survivalist. I am training to make fire, hunt, carve, build shelter and more.
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Totally caught me by surprise there, dude.
 
I agree civilization is too big to fail. I do predict more "aggressive" posturing by the major powers in the future, but not a total collapse.
 
Civilization is a joke. It's a self serving term used by some to exploit and act better then others.
As soon as they are in the position to do what you call "exploiting", they don't have to act better.
The fall of our modern civilisations is inevitable just like how the fall of humanity is inevitable, it'll take a while but it'll happen.
What kind of limp-wristed defeatist attitude is that?
He'll solve all of America's problems and discover the secret to eternal life, solidifying the Human race as the gods of the universe.
Fuck yeah!




But since when is "Human race" a synonym for "Americans"?
 
Oh please, not you again ... why can't you ever let a statement by people, just be a statement.
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What kind of limp-wristed defeatist attitude is that?
As soon as they are in the position to do what you call "exploiting", they don't have to act better.
But since when is "Human race" a synonym for "Americans"?
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Nobody cares
 
Every person who has predicted the fall of human civilization has been proven wrong. "civilization" is not an unified whole, so for it to just collapse out of nowhere is pretty unrealistic, not even a shitty leader can accomplish such instantaneous implosion, contrary to what shitty Zombie apocalypse stories tell you humans are pretty adept at not letting themselves die, specially in big numbers. It might morph into all sorts of shapes but it would probably take nuclear fire to rain down everywhere simulatanously or an asteroid collision to truly destroy civilization completely.
 
Every person who has predicted the fall of human civilization has been proven wrong. "civilization" is not an unified whole, so for it to just collapse out of nowhere is pretty unrealistic, not even a shitty leader can accomplish such instantaneous implosion...

What about scar? He was such a bad king that he physically made it stop raining.
 
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