Histories of ancient peoples thread

Throatpunch

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This thread is devoted to the histories of ancient peoples from long ago. Feel free to contribute your knowledge about the history of ancient people. Be it Aztecs, the Sami and Kven, Romans, Mongols, Native Americans, Aboriginals. Anything.

I'll kick it off with the Celts and the Picts.

The Celts:

Celts were blacksmiths (working with iron), bronze smiths, leather workers, potters (potters wheel introduced around 150 BC) and carpenters. They could make elaborate and beautiful Jewellery out of precious stones and gold. They could make glass, and glass beads, decorate metal goods with enamel, and many of their swords and shields were finely decorated.
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Celtic Society is also interesting. It was hierarchical; at the top were the nobles, led by a king or chieftain, then the craftsmen (metal workers were the most important), then the farmers who provided most of the food supply, and fought for the chief. There was also a slave class in Celtic England.
The Celts were separated into tribes, with no political unity at all and a whole shit ton of fighting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Celtic_tribes

Celts grew crops in square shaped fields and raised pigs, sheep and cattle. They could brew beer from barley. Grain was stored in pits lined with either stone or wicker, and then sealed with clay.
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Trade with Europe was often. Metals like tin, iron and lead were exported from England, with grains, cloth, wool and skin being imported. At first, the Celts used Iron Bars as currency but got onto using gold coins by 50 BC.
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I always wanted to live in a Celtic House. They used low tables, benches (that could be beds too), with a fire in the middle, and the walls were wattle and daub. Most were built around a central pole, with horizontal poles going out from the central pole, and then that resting on vertical poles.
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There clothes were way better than ours. Men would put on tunics and trousers, with women wearing long dresses. Rich people wore torques, gold ornaments. Many had moustaches, but not beards. Music was played from flutes or lyres. As a makeshift hair gel, men used lime water to make their hair stand on end.
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They had religion, led by druids, who worshipped many Gods. Druids were also scholars who advised chiefs and were judges.
The best bit is they didn't build temples like Rome and Greece did. They worshipped in natural places, like tree groves or lakes. To please the Gods, valuable things were thrown into rivers and lakes.
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In good weather they held chariot and horse races, and hunted wild boar on horseback. Also, they played board games and played music.
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Dead people were buried in individual graves like we do. They were buried with goods, showing a strong belief in the afterlife.

They had a load of festivals. I'll cut and paste this for you, since its a lot to type.
Imbolc at the beginning of February at the start of the lambing season, Beltane at the beginning of May, when cattle were sent out to graze in the fields after being kept indoors and fed on hay during the Winter, Lughasad in August when the crops were growing ripe and Samhain at the beginning of November. That was the time when animals were brought in from the fields for the Winter. The Celts could not grow enough hay to feed them all so those not needed for breeding were slaughtered.

Women had many rights in Celtic life, far more than the Romans.

Moving on to one of the most badass bits, Celtic warfare.
About 650 BC the Celts introduced iron into Britain and they made the first swords. Warfare was common throughout the iron age, and many hill forts (basically fortified settlements) were built around that time. The Celts fought from horses or light wooden chariots. They threw spears and used swords. The Celts had wooden shields (many decorated) and some wore chain mail.

I'll link you to some interesting stuff and battles:

The Picts
Picts were a group of people who lived in East and North Scotland during the Late Iron Age and Early Medieval Periods.
They are defined as"confederation of tribal units whose political motivations derived from a need to ally against common enemies" .
They left no history, and what we know about them comes from Roman, later Scottish writers, and carved on stones.
Archaeological records show Pictish society was not particularly distinguishable from its Celtic British and Gaelic neighbours.
They painted themselves with woad, just like the Celtic Iceni tribe. This is why they are referred to as picts, because picti is Latin for painted.
Early Pictish Religion is presumed to be Celtic Polytheism, later being replaced by Christianity in around the 5th/6th Centuries.
There are no records of the Pictish language, it is extinct. However, many records point to it being similar to Common Brittonic, the language of the Celtic Britons.
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Their style of warfare has been recorded on some engraved stone slabs. Horseman, like the Celts, they used Javelins and longer lances. Foot soldiers fought with spears or pikes, and may even have had organised formations. They carried the characteristic Celtic shield with swirling patterns, and some wore Germanic style helmets (Spangehelms's). Most surprisingly of all, the crossbow is included on one of the engraved slabs, though it wasn't thought to be in use until much later in Europe.
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I'll link you to some battles involving the Picts:
 
If i can spend some time later, maybe i talk about the Visigoths. Not very unique, but boy the conflicts they had, enough to make George R.R. Martin blush.
and claymore :)
Is that weapon amazing in every context, time period and videogame or is it me?
 
If i can spend some time later, maybe i talk about the Visigoths. Not very unique, but boy the conflicts they had, enough to make George R.R. Martin blush.

Is that weapon amazing in every context, time period and videogame or is it me?
the great migration era or iberian kingdom era?

Is that weapon amazing in every context, time period and videogame or is it me?

its shape of crossguard and the point were very good for use on half swording technique as well as locking opponent blade when parrying. maybe its just my personal preference for great sword that is not too long like zweihander, but still good on its own as part of great sword family
 
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the great migration era or iberian kingdom era?
Iberian, the migration era is pretty blurry on me, and what i remember is that they were yet another barbarian-ish people from the north who raided Rome
 
Iberian, the migration era is pretty blurry on me, and what i remember is that they were yet another barbarian-ish people from the north who raided Rome
yeah, for once the iberian kingdom of visigoth were the most tolerable place in europe since they dont recognize pope authority and catholic as state religion. the nobility if i remember were mostly christian sect of arianism (or derived form of it). but in the later era, lots of intrigue happen that forced foreign intervention to happen. and thats when the whole thing crumbled into its demise.
 
yeah, for once the iberian kingdom of visigoth were the most tolerable place in europe since they dont recognize pope authority and catholic as state religion. the nobility if i remember were mostly christian sect of arianism (or derived form of it). but in the later era, lots of intrigue happen that forced foreign intervention to happen. and thats when the whole thing crumbled into its demise.
I'll try and tell one of the main intrigues, which became a story that is still fairly well known this days. I recall some poison, rival families and an incoming mutual threat. Supspense!
 
(For the impatient and easily bored, interesting and 'funny' stuff at the end of the post)

The Sami

The Sami people (also Sámi or Saami, traditionally known in English as Lapps or Laplanders) are an indigenous Finno-Ugric people inhabiting the Arctic area of Sápmi, which today encompasses parts of far northern Norway, Sweden, Finland, the Kola Peninsula of Russia, and the border area between south and middle Sweden and Norway. The Sami are the only indigenous people of Scandinavia recognized and protected under the international conventions of indigenous peoples, and are hence the northernmost indigenous people of Europe.

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History of the Sami people

Since prehistoric times, the Sami people of Arctic Europe have lived and worked in an area that stretches over the northern parts of the regions now known as Norway, Sweden, Finland, and the Russian Kola Peninsula. They have inhabited the northern arctic and sub-arctic regions of Fenno-Scandinavia and Russia for at least 5,000 years.

Petroglyphs and archeological findings such as settlements dating from about 10,000 B.C. can be found in the traditional lands of the Sami. The now-obsolete term for the archaeological culture of these hunters and gatherers of the late Paleolithic and early Mesolithic is Komsa. A cultural continuity between these stone-age people and the Sami can be assumed due to evidence such as the similarities in the decoration patterns of archeological bone objects and Sami decoration patterns, and there is no archeological evidence of this population being replaced by another.

Recent archaeological discoveries in Finnish Lapland were originally seen as the continental version of the Komsa culture about the same age as the earliest finds on the coast of Norway. It is hypothesized that the Komsa followed receding glaciers inland from the Arctic coast at the end of the last ice age (between 11,000 and 8000 years B.C.) as new land opened up for settlement (e.g., modern Finnmark area in the northeast, to the coast of the Kola Peninsula). Since the Sami are the earliest ethnic group in the area, they are consequently considered an indigenous population of the area.

Origins of the Norwegian Sea Sami
The bubonic plague


Until the arrival of bubonic plague in northern Norway in 1349, the Sami and the Norwegians occupied very separate economic niches. The Sami hunted reindeer and fished for their livelihood. The Norwegians, who were concentrated on the outer islands and near the mouths of the fjords, had access to the major European trade routes so that, in addition to marginal farming in the Nordland, Troms, and Finnmark counties, they were able to establish commerce, supplying fish in trade for products from the south. The two groups co-existed using two different food resources. According to old Nordic texts, the Sea Sami and the Mountain Sami are two classes of the same people and not two different ethnic groups as had been erroneously believed.

This social economic balance greatly changed with the introduction of the bubonic plague to northern Norway in December 1349. The Norwegians were closely connected to the greater European trade routes, along which the plague traveled; consequently, they were infected and died at a far higher rate than Sami in the interior. Of all the states in the region, Norway suffered the most from this plague. Depending on the parish, sixty to seventy-six percent of the northern Norwegian farms were abandoned following the plague, while land-rents, another possible measure of the population numbers, dropped down to between 9-28% of pre-plague rents. Although the population of northern Norway is sparse compared to southern Europe, the spread of the disease was just as rapid. The method of movement of the plague-infested flea (Xenopsylla cheopsis) from the south was in wooden barrels holding wheat, rye, or wool—where the fleas could live, and even reproduce, for several months at a time. The Sami, having a non-wheat or -rye diet, eating fish and reindeer meat, living in communities detached from the Norwegians, and being only weakly connected to the European trade routes, fared far better than the Norwegians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_people#History

The traditional (not widely used anymore) dwelling of the Sami people is the "Goahti" or "kota" in Finnish. It's reminiscent of the Native American "tipi".

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goahti
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That's about it, history-wise. There's some more stuff there if you're interested. The Sami are trying to get their own nationhood and language rights going, that's an ongoing thing even today. My country Finland doesn't fully recognize them as indiginous people so they don't have to grant them the rights that are supposed to be given to all indiginous folks.

The Sami even today get much of their livelyhood from reindeer husbandry. When I was in the military up in the north of Finland, I met a few of them, some with a lot of Sami heritage and some with less. Next to me on the wall is a half a set of reindeer horns that I took as a souvenier from one outing in the Lapland nature during army service. Wouldn't want to get gored by a full set.

Here's some pictures of Sami folks. They are usually, from my personal knowledge also, kind of short and stout, sometimes with dark hair. There's been a lot of mixing with the Finns (Fenni?) and other ethnicities such as the Swedes resulting in many 'mixes' of Sami. Some famous people with Sami heritage include the US actress Renee Zellweger who has a Norwegian Sami mother. Zellweger used to have the typical epicanthic fold over her eyes that is typical of some Sami folks but she went to beauty surgery and had it operated.

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Here's a guy with a very clear epicanthic folds over his eyes. This is a commercial for a Finnish clothes company, they find interesting people and have them model their clothes. He speaks the Sami-language, of which there are several variants.



Oh yes, and then there's this, infamous video. The Laplander reindeer castration - video. Enjoy. :look:

 
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