Are The Source Codes For Fallout 1 and 2 Lost?

TheKingofVault14

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I keep seeing this "fact" be brought up whenever a discussion about the possibility of remastering these two games, and then in response to that is the source code for both games were apparently lost by Interplay at some point. Which is WHY both FO1 and 2 need to be fully remade from the ground up, at least according to certain people.



Can anybody confirm if this is true, and where this notion comes from?
 
It came from the "Bethesda Softworks LLC v. Interplay Entertainment Corporation" court case.

Interplay stated that the Source code of the classic Fallout games was lost, but if it was ever found it would be handed to Bethesda.

I have no time or will to find and dig through thousands of legal documents (I don't even know if they are even public somewhere), so we will have to take the Fandom wikia word for it:
“So there's thousands of pages of information, of designs, of characters, of effects, how these effects are going to work, what's going to happen. This isn't something that's created overnight, and I think Mr. Caen has indicated that he gathered this information, had the company gather this information for everything prior to April 4, 2009.”— Jeffery Gersh
Summary of terms of settlement
  • Both parties agree to dismiss the case, with prejudice (meaning the case cannot be refiled).
  • Bethesda paid Interplay $US 2 million.
  • Interplay delivered the Gold Masters of the prior games to Bethesda.
  • Interplay asserted the source code for the older games no longer exists, but in the event of it being located, they would also be turned over to Bethesda.
  • The TLA would be terminated, and Interplay thus surrendered any claim to the Fallout franchise.
  • As per prior agreements, Interplay could continue to sell the older Fallout titles until the end of 2013.
    • Interplay is prohibited from porting the games to any non-PC platform.
    • Interplay is prohibited from modifying the games, except for patches to allow it to work on PC.
    • Streaming deals, beyond a completed deal with OnLive are prohibited.
  • All work on Fallout Online was to cease, and the domain name turned over to Bethesda.
The Project V13 title was reused for a completely different game.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Bet...nt_Corporation#Summary_of_terms_of_settlement
 
F2 was made in like a year I think they can do it from scratch anyway. Of course now it would take like 5 to 7 years if modern devs are any indication.
 
It came from the "Bethesda Softworks LLC v. Interplay Entertainment Corporation" court case.

Interplay stated that the Source code of the classic Fallout games was lost, but if it was ever found it would be handed to Bethesda.

I have no time or will to find and dig through thousands of legal documents (I don't even know if they are even public somewhere), so we will have to take the Fandom wikia word for it:

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Bet...nt_Corporation#Summary_of_terms_of_settlement
Ah so that's where it came from, thanks Rise! :)

F2 was made in like a year I think they can do it from scratch anyway. Of course now it would take like 5 to 7 years if modern devs are any indication.
That's so painfully accurate, heh modern devs.
:roffle:
 
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