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It would be interesting to see the contract between Interplay and Bethesda, so we could judge for ourselves who shafted who. But I doubt that will ever happen.

After reading the comments Victor1st made a couple of months back, about Zenimax/Bethesda's treatment of the Star Trek community, this doesn't surprise me all. http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34700&highlight=star+trek They are ruthless.

Yeah but just look at that Fallout loading screen. What does it make you feel? Now look at all of the F3 concept art we have seen so far and ask the same question again. My impressions of the Fallout loading screen, are the colours are fantastic the yellows/reds, the blue and the green...

>I'll get the DVD just because the Joe Strackzinsky name is on it. In case you haven't heard of J. Michael Straczynski , he was the writer behind Babylon 5. Overall I think he's a great writer, however he does write the occasional clanger line, or annoying character. >until I saw Luke...

So what do you guys think of it? I've been watching it for a number of years and have enjoyed most of it, but I've never seen it mentioned here.

Perspective and turn based combat is the least of your worries with the mentality of Bethesda's fan base. :roll: PIPgirl!, Why do boys get all the fun? http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=684534

If you can ween yourself off the cutting edge graphics, check out the Indie scene. Here's a big list to get you started: http://www.rpgcodex.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=2848

Does anyone know who owns the tech demo? Is it Obsidian or Bethesda?

I'm glad to see this was finally released. Thanks who ever you are. :)

In Australia anything less than 16 is illegal, but I've seen a few cases on current affairs shows, where an underage girl was living with a 30 or 40 year old man and nothing was done about it. In one case guardianship was awarded to the man, because the girl refused to live with her parents.

I think all they'd have to do is pull the camera back a bit more and it would look fine.

He sounds quite irritated doesn't he? Could it be that the Rebels have become a thorn in the Empire's side? :lol:

I just read an update on the story and apparently one or both of of the girls got into emo music last year and started wearing white make up and weird clothes. Of course kids being kids, they ostracized and bullied the hell out of her at school. P.S. I had never heard of emo before this...

A pink PipGirl would be the final insult. Now I understand why some people go crazy when the Koran or Bible is desecrated.

My theory is they were murdered by a thrill killer on a boat. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Milat

This is a story I've been following here in Australia. What's weird about it is no one can figure out what happened. This has some quotes and links to more details: http://www.daylife.com/story/0dEBaaBfx72jz/quotes/1?lead_article=101000000020419262 Mystery yacht search continues...

Wow they were so young! They also said one of the girls was a bit of a recluse. I knew a girl who was like that, but when anyone tried to make friends with her (including me), she'd stick the knife in. Its hard to know what to do when people are that way.

You're right. He is one of the good guys. When I was reading his emails, I imagined his voice sounding like Harold from Fallout. But now I see his picture, I'm disappointed. You're way too young Scott! ;) I know that feeling well. The problem with games these days, is you end up working on...

This part sent a shiver up my spine: "Do you think we'll ever fool people into thinking we're alive?" "No." because I misread it as: "Do you think people will ever think we're alive?" "No." It made me realize that two slave AI's could have a similar conversation in my life...

When I first heard the news I was very depressed, but by the end of the day I remembered that Fallout is bigger than Interplay or Bethesda. People will still be discovering and talking about the original in another 10 years and if Bethesda mucks up F3, it will be forgotten just like BOS. So...