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Oh no! You guys are having an interesting conversation and I just wanted to ask what movies do you like?

I've been hearing how Hollywood has been making films to cater more to Chinese audiences and just wanted to know your thoughts on this. What movies are popular in China?

I was also wondering if there are any Chinese films that you would recommend. We get a lot of South Korean and Japanese films here, but a lot of Chinese films don't get much exposure except for a few action films.
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My favorite movie is Forrest Gump. I watched it when I was very young, and I have watched many great movies after that. But Forrest Gump is simply the best one to me.

It's true that we see many Chinese artists in Hollywood's films, their fans will be happy but I don't really care about it. I think if a Chinese actor or actress will really do help to a movie, then it will be great to see them. But if it is just for the tickets which will be bought by their fans, then no thanks, it's really unnecessary. I would like to say Chinese movie fans like to watch movies which have superstars, or have some big scenes (better in IMAX 3D), or just to be cute and funny and suitable for children. And then you will find almost all the Hollywood films will meet that standard, and that's almost the case. Chinese government will only imported limited films from Hollywood to protect native movies.

I would like to recommend "Assembly" (2007, Director Feng Xiao Gang) as a Chinese war movie, "Spring Subway" (2001, Director Zhang Yi Bai) as a Romance movie, "Homecoming"(2014, Director Zhang Yi Mou) as a literary film and " The Emperor And The Assassin" (1999, Director Chen Kai Ge) as a historical movie. I don't recommend Ang Lee's recent movies because he is not so "Chinese", he is from Taiwan and his style is very Hollywood.
 
Heh, you know China has some really good actors or at least they made some decent movies. Jet Lee, Jackie Chan Chow Yun-Fat and hey! Who could ever forget Bruce! The actor of Ip Man Donnie Yen, is also decent. I mean I liked some of the Ip Man movies after all. Even though they are really more fiction then true story telling. China has done some really good movies! Though, they are mostly done in Hon Kong, if I am not mistaken? I guess it's Chinas version of Hollywood I guess.
By the way, what do people in China think about North Korea? Are they also as tired of their bullshit like most parts of the world?
 
Crni Vuk said:
Heh, you know China has some really good actors or at least they made some decent movies. Jet Lee, Jackie Chan Chow Yun-Fat and hey! Who could ever forget Bruce! The actor of Ip Man Donnie Yen, is also decent. I mean I liked some of the Ip Man movies after all. Even though they are really more fiction then true story telling. China has done some really good movies! Though, they are mostly done in Hon Kong, if I am not mistaken? I guess it's Chinas version of Hollywood I guess.
By the way, what do people in China think about North Korea? Are they also as tired of their bullshit like most parts of the world?
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If we talk about Chinese movies, I think we'd better separate "Hong Kong Movies", "Taiwan Movies" and "Mainland China Movies", the culture in the 3 areas are different in many ways. It's very obvious that the overall quality of Hong Kong Movies is higher than Taiwan and Mainland movies, and the golden age of Hong Kong movie is in 1980s ~ 1990s. The movies I recommended to you are all from mainland China, it will look different from the Hong Kong movies you've seen.

As far as I know, people in North Korea are still like Chinese people in 1960s, they still admire their "greatest leader" and will cry to tears while seeing him in a near distance, and believe USA is the dangerous enemy and the major reason why they live such a poor life. North Korea is so small and mind controlling there is much easier than doing it in China, I don't see they will have a real change in near future. But who knows? If their fat boy leader was killed by some one, maybe North Korea will have a different future.
 
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I guess it's just a problem for China as every silly Northkorean action, will obviously get the US on the plan. And the last thing China wants is carriers cruising around in the pacific. I am by no means a China fan. But seriously, I can understand their concerns.
 
pennyliu123 said:
I would like to recommend "Assembly" (2007, Director Feng Xiao Gang) as a Chinese war movie, "Spring Subway" (2001, Director Zhang Yi Bai) as a Romance movie, "Homecoming"(2014, Director Zhang Yi Mou) as a literary film and " The Emperor And The Assassin" (1999, Director Chen Kai Ge) as a historical movie. I don't recommend Ang Lee's recent movies because he is not so "Chinese", he is from Taiwan and his style is very Hollywood.
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Fantastic. Will make a point to look out for them.
 
Crni Vuk said:
Heh, you know China has some really good actors or at least they made some decent movies. Jet Lee, Jackie Chan Chow Yun-Fat and hey! Who could ever forget Bruce! The actor of Ip Man Donnie Yen, is also decent. I mean I liked some of the Ip Man movies after all. Even though they are really more fiction then true story telling. China has done some really good movies! Though, they are mostly done in Hon Kong, if I am not mistaken? I guess it's Chinas version of Hollywood I guess.
By the way, what do people in China think about North Korea? Are they also as tired of their bullshit like most parts of the world?
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Yeah, nobody wants a crazy neighbor, North Korea is the crazy neighbor of China.
 
You know what is really strange though? Finding a decent chinese restaurant here in Germany. Sometimes you have luck and you get one that is preparing their food at least fresh. But one offering you traditional chinese dishes and not just throwing a plate full of glutamate at you and calling it chinese food? Good luck!
How's foreign food in China? Do you have German restaurants around?
 
Crni Vuk said:
You know what is really strange though? Finding a decent chinese restaurant here in Germany. Sometimes you have luck and you get one that is preparing their food at least fresh. But one offering you traditional chinese dishes and not just throwing a plate full of glutamate at you and calling it chinese food? Good luck!
How's foreign food in China? Do you have German restaurants around?
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I have to say most of the "foreign food" can be found in China is fast food, KFC, pizzahut and McDonald are very popular. I know there are a few Germany restaurants in big cities like Beijing and Shanghai, and there is a so-called German restaurant in my city,

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Did you ever hear about this restaurant in Germany?

This kind of restaurant is still expensive in China, the one above charges RMB 500 for 2-people set meal, but in a Chinese restaurant 200 should be quite enough.
 
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Crni Vuk said:
Hmm, no, never seen anything that's resembling it, I guess that Prusa is standing for Prussia? No clue :D
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I guess so, that's why I said it's a "so-called" German restaurant, maybe it's boss or it's chief is from Germany, of maybe just a guy who went back to China after studying in a university in Germany:mrgreen:
 
Sn1p3r187 said:
Do you think China will ever do away with communism?
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Firstly I think China has nothing to do with "Communism" ever, we're "in the primary stage of Socialism" according to CPC, and Communism is still a dream or a concept.

Secondly, as a dream, I don't see the problem with Communism, it's said that in a Communism society, every people can get everything he wants as there will be a lot of "everything" and can choose anything he feels interesting as his job, I think that's pretty good for a dream:hatersgonnahate:

If I didn't understand your question correctly, please let me know.
 
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I guess China is today in some areas even more capitalistic compared to some European nations, like with their changes to small enterprises and people selling their own wares, of course, I don't mean this in any offensive way. China has changed a lot in that respect and it is much more open to investors today. It's just my opinion, but I would say China has a brighter future ahead than Russia. They also have less military conflicts, as far as I know.
But, as someone who has his roots in a socialist nation - ex. Yugoslavia, I would be interested how China is dealing with nationalism? Are there strong nationalist movements in China? The Yugoslavian government was rather hostile against nationalism, like against Croatia, Kosovo and such. You know that probaganda, there is no natoinalism! We are all a happy loving family of peacefull socialists. No surprise it lead to a colapse in the 90s.
 
Crni Vuk said:
I guess China is today in some areas even more capitalistic compared to some European nations, like with their changes to small enterprises and people selling their own wares, of course, I don't mean this in any offensive way. China has changed a lot in that respect and it is much more open to investors today. It's just my opinion, but I would say China has a brighter future ahead than Russia. They also have less military conflicts, as far as I know.
But, as someone who has his roots in a socialist nation - ex. Yugoslavia, I would be interested how China is dealing with nationalism? Are there strong nationalist movements in China? The Yugoslavian government was rather hostile against nationalism, like against Croatia, Kosovo and such. You know that probaganda, there is no natoinalism! We are all a happy loving family of peacefull socialists. No surprise it lead to a colapse in the 90s.
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I feel Nationalism is not a serious problem in China, as Han nation is too much stronger and richer than the rest nations, so the government can do a lot of things to make the rest 55 nations happy. For example, students from minorities will get extra points in the exam to university, and they will even be punished more lightly if they commit some crime. The government will also spend a lot of money to build schools and hospitals in minorities' area and encourage people from Han nation to marry them. After generations, the gap between nations will be nebulous. And as the minorities feel their lives are pretty good, they will not think a lot about "being independent". And Han nation also will not have too many troubles with the minorities, to most people like me, if I don't go out for a journey, I doubt I will see any minorities besides the Uygurs who sell barbecue on the streets, and if they are poor, I don't mind the government spend money to improve their lives. That's why China can be still very stable with 56 nations, in my opinion.
 
Yeah, people can take a lot if you feed them and keep them happy. However, don't understimate the national feelings some have, those always come up, when things don't look so great anymore, even if it doesnt make much sense. I am not saying China and Yugoslavia are comparable in every department, of course. But 50 years of socialism and beating out nationalism from people still couldn't get rid of the tensions between the nationalities. To be honest, the Serbian dominance inside of Yugoslavia probably didn't help much either here. People always got the feeling, why should we work for Yugoslavia? Everythings going to Belgrad anyway! So let's do our own thing. And the government was really corrupt, well it still is. But now? Look at them poor sods all over the Balkan, fuckers pay now more for goods, tons of taxes and lost a lot of jobs. The idea of Yugoslavia wasn't bad in my opinion, it was just extremly shitty executed. However, I doubt there is a way back to that. But I would really like to see the Balkan states forming a kind of trade Union similar to the European Union or Africa Uninion.

But, luckily I guess, China seems to do much better here, since I have no reason to doubt your words. But I am a little surprised honestly, as I thought there was more preasure to keep all the nations or provinces together.
Maybe I should move over to your province and open a Balkan restaurant, I am sure there are not many of those in China!
 
Since you played Fallout 2. Do you think the China presented in Fallout is more or less what would've happened if China pursued marxist ideas from Russia during or after Mao? Or what could've happened if China had an internal revolt in the CPC and they likely went a bit nationalistic and fascist?
 
Crni Vuk said:
Yeah, people can take a lot if you feed them and keep them happy. However, don't understimate the national feelings some have, those always come up, when things don't look so great anymore, even if it doesnt make much sense. I am not saying China and Yugoslavia are comparable in every department, of course. But 50 years of socialism and beating out nationalism from people still couldn't get rid of the tensions between the nationalities. To be honest, the Serbian dominance inside of Yugoslavia probably didn't help much either here. People always got the feeling, why should we work for Yugoslavia? Everythings going to Belgrad anyway! So let's do our own thing. And the government was really corrupt, well it still is. But now? Look at them poor sods all over the Balkan, fuckers pay now more for goods, tons of taxes and lost a lot of jobs. The idea of Yugoslavia wasn't bad in my opinion, it was just extremly shitty executed. However, I doubt there is a way back to that. But I would really like to see the Balkan states forming a kind of trade Union similar to the European Union or Africa Uninion.

But, luckily I guess, China seems to do much better here, since I have no reason to doubt your words. But I am a little surprised honestly, as I thought there was more preasure to keep all the nations or provinces together.
Maybe I should move over to your province and open a Balkan restaurant, I am sure there are not many of those in China!
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People say "nothing is impossible", and I agree the national feelings should not be underestimated. As far as I know, some of the Uygurs don't like Han people and some place in Xin Jiang is not very safe. And as I mentioned in a reply, I think the Uygurs and Tibet may have the potential possibility to be independent. These 2 nations seem to have more stronger national feelings and the personality in them seems be more different with Han than the other nations. However, most of minorities in China don't seem to have such strong national feelings. For example, the "Man" nation, which the emperor of Qing or Tsing Dynasty came from, have lost almost all their characteristics, they don't remember their language, can't read their traditional writings, and speak perfect "Mandarin"(the word "Mandarin" comes from "Man", by the way. It literally means "the honorable official of Man"). And this change seems happening in most of the minorities. They gradually accept Mandarin as their second language, and they gradually accept the idealism of Han, and maybe finally become a part of Han after many years. And I think this situation will not change even if the Uygurs or Tibet declare independent someday.

If you like, you'll be welcome to visit my city, Shenzhen. There are many foreigners here. In the past few years I feel more and more foreigners come to China for study or doing business. And it's famous that Chinese like to see foreigners. Most of Chinese will feel proud to see you as we will think "see, the foreigners come, we must be in a good place in their mind" (I know this is not always the case :lmao:) , and Confucius (Kong zi) also taught us, "Isn't it happy to meet a friend who comes from faraway?" :ok:
 
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Sn1p3r187 said:
Since you played Fallout 2. Do you think the China presented in Fallout is more or less what would've happened if China pursued marxist ideas from Russia during or after Mao? Or what could've happened if China had an internal revolt in the CPC and they likely went a bit nationalistic and fascist?
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I believe if China and it's people are still in the status of Mao's age, it will be a huge threat to the world. 99.999% of Chinese used to admire Mao and believe everything he said. If Mao said, "let's fight Russia, because their government is evil, we must be their salvation", no doubt that Chinese people will follow his words and fight.

But of course, nowadays things are very different. I will show you a funny picture.

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The Chinese letters say "It seems that you don't understand how precious life is". If a guy speaks against the government or Xi Jin Ping angrily in a forum, there will be no suprise that someone posts this picture in the reply for kidding. Xi Jin Ping has a lot of "nickname" on Internet, and most of them are very funny. Chinese people don't admire the President, and will not agree his sayings without thinking. So if Xi told the people "we should fight Russia", people will say, why, really? And at least me will not attend the army for that :dance:

It will be interesting if we assume that there will be a serious revolt or "break" inside of CPC, but I think the most serious result is the country fall to another civil war, like CPC fought with KMT before 1949. However, that will very unlikely to be led to fascism or nationalism in my opinion. I think the only possibility that China go on the way of fascism is for some unforeseen reason, the whole country is starving, Chinese people will do everything for food, and if they have none, maybe they will try to get food from other countries, and then there will be wars. Let's hope that will not happen, as it never happened before.:notworthy:
 
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Economically China is capitalist now, that much has been obvious for a while. But what about other type of comunist "values", so to speak, like a sense of collective comunity, all striving for the betterment of the nation, or the comunity as a whole? Is there any sense of that or people are much more individualistic now?

I mean, is it "either we all make it or we don't" or "only the more apt deserve to do well".
 
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