Fallout Extreme part I: the story

[TychoXI]

BN, you're wrong. The nuclear age was international, and so was the cold war.

Within the backstory the war was international, but almost everything about the setting is grounded in '50s Americana. If you start exploring other nations then you lose that feel and you lose something that was a big part of Fallout.

Yeah, I could see your point relating 50s americana, but this is just a spinoff, why not change the country? (and I wouldn't mind such a change in the main series either, think about it: Fallout 6: The Revenge of the Commies!)

Of course, it would be interesting as long as they don't throw in cossacks, huns and a chinese emperor. I mean, I could accept the son of the bride of the cousin of the brother of Mao... but the emperor?? hordes of huns?? jeez, I see why it was eXtreme!

 

[UnidentifiedFlyingTard]

its eXtreeeeeeme!!!

 

[Eternal]

couldn't this have stayed buried deep in the earths crust rather than be surfaced up? We don't want Todd getting any ideas for more DLC...

 

[PaladinHeart]

BN, you're wrong. The nuclear age was international, and so was the cold war.

This reminds me of the whole Godzilla argument a while back. Is this also gonna result in another 10 page discussion and a banning?

 

[Crni Vuk]

I mean what kind of ideas had China about the future in the 50s and 60s?

Why would that be relevant? Fallout is US retro-50s, not "retro-50s specifically adapted per country". It's why it can only really be set in the US.

Jesus! Just an idea and thought. You can only suck so much life out of Fallout. Sometimes a few new bits of informations why not. pfff you just hate Chinese I am sure

BN sure stands for Brotherhood None or so

BN, you're wrong. The nuclear age was international, and so was the cold war.

Within the backstory the war was international, but almost everything about the setting is grounded in '50s Americana. If you start exploring other nations then you lose that feel and you lose something that was a big part of Fallout.

And that means one is not allowed to look beyond one's own nose? I mean its not like it makes it overall the most important topic in the game that you are in a retro futuristic enviroment its part of the back story (its just that Fallout 3 makes such a big fuss around ... 50s equipment, style and fashion which in my eyes never played even the most important role in Fallout 1/2 except that it was bombed to hell talking about the visible aspects of course).

I mean if and of course only if done in a fallout way informations about the 50s future from a chinese/russian perspective could be interesting. Thats all I am saying.l

I don't think a spin-off set in a retrofuturistic Soviet Union would be out of place. I would prefer the main series to stick to the US, though.

Same thoughts. But informations here and there would make the setting even more interesting.

 

[aenemic]

Fallout 3
Fallout 3
Fallout Tactics 2
Fallout BoS 2
Fallout Extreme
FOOL

are there actually two cancelled Fallout 3's? I had no idea

 

[Brother None]

I don't think a spin-off set in a retrofuturistic Soviet Union would be out of place.

What kind of retrofuturistic Soviet Union? Because the reason I scoff at the idea is because the future view of the SU and the US don't mess. A retrofuturistic SU from the 50s would be a paradise of agricultural and industrial productivity, a retrofuturistic US view of the SU would include a few of the same things - most noticeable architecture, and Soviet Realist architecture is awesome - but paint a different picture of the way the country developed, and stress different things, most noticeably oppression and "the differentness of the other".

Also, SU would be an odd pick because it and the Commonwealth are pretty irrelevant.

are there actually two cancelled Fallout 3's? I had no idea

There's probably dozens if you count every time the BIS staff went "man wouldn't it be cool to do a Fallout 3" and drafted up some plans (I mean, if we count Faust as being in production enough there's prolly really half a dozen F3s that apply), but there's two that stick out as more serious, Van Buren and an iteration that started up between F2 and Tactics. Though sometimes people mumble about another one that started right after Tactics. Ausir might remember.

 

[aenemic]

ok, but the other ones didn't get past story board and concept art I assume?

 

[Ausir]

What kind of retrofuturistic Soviet Union? Because the reason I scoff at the idea is because the future view of the SU and the US don't mess. A retrofuturistic SU from the 50s would be a paradise of agricultural and industrial productivity, a retrofuturistic US view of the SU would include a few of the same things - most noticeable architecture, and Soviet Realist architecture is awesome - but paint a different picture of the way the country developed, and stress different things, most noticeably oppression and "the differentness of the other".

Well, it's not as if the way the US (particularly the government) is presented is how people in the 1950s saw the the future either. Hell, it's actually more consistent with the Soviet view of the US government, if anything. I'd say that, analogically, the Fallout version of the Soviet Union being a mix of Soviet visions of the future and US view of the Soviet Union would be the way to go.

Also, SU would be an odd pick because it and the Commonwealth are pretty irrelevant.

Well, fairly irrelevant in the history we know, but its role could always be expanded. And I think a Fallout game set in China would either be atrociously bad or too exotic to sell.

There's probably dozens if you count every time the BIS staff went "man wouldn't it be cool to do a Fallout 3" and drafted up some plans (I mean, if we count Faust as being in production enough there's prolly really half a dozen F3s that apply), but there's two that stick out as more serious, Van Buren and an iteration that started up between F2 and Tactics. Though sometimes people mumble about another one that started right after Tactics. Ausir might remember.

According to the dev profile, Chris Avellone wrote the first vision doc for what became Van Buren even before Fallout Tactics was announced, and did 3-4 years of pre-production, so I think it's same to assume that all of these Black Isle iterations of Fallout 3 were more or less the same project.

 

[Starseeker]

lol, China in the 50/60s?

The Great leap forward and Cultural revolution?

It might be amusing to see that in a FO world.

edit to add: Here is an interesting idea, why not jump in during the civil war between the nationalist and the communist?

 

[Crni Vuk]

not the China of the 50s as we know it. The China of the future how they seen it in the 50s.

Bethesda already made the mistake to let Fallout 3 look more like the 50s gone to hell then the 50s future bombed to hell.

 

[Ausir]

BTW, if you count Fallout Tactics Concentration Game and Fallout Tactics Simon Says there have been more released games than canceled ones!