Fallout: New Vegas Honest Hearts Reviews Round-up #3

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Some more reviews for Honest Hearts are out, the reception ranging from positive to mediocre.

PC Advisor like it but think it falls short of Fallout 3's Point Lookout, 3/5.<blockquote>Regardless of how splendid it looks, Zion National Park feels empty. There are precious few characters to interact with outside of those listed above, and I often spent several minutes finding a route through the undulating terrain to reach a new location, only to discover that it was another lookout point or abandoned campsite. This is exacerbated by a lack of variety in the enemies: beyond the White Legs, there is only one new threat to your safety – an admittedly cool mutant plant – though Obsidian does draft in Fallout 3’s fearsome, bear-like Yao Guai to make up the numbers.

The mission design is also underwhelming. I’m not the sort of gamer to take note of the number of fetch quests being thrown my way, but at one point it felt like I was being given nothing but. Don’t get me wrong, there’s nothing wrong with a fetch quest if it’s elaborately disguised, but Honest Hearts rarely makes the effort. If you’re a longstanding RPG player, the moment when a character looks you squarely in the eye and asks you to find three lunchboxes can be surprisingly hard to take. Honest Hearts will test your resolve.</blockquote>Metro.co.uk, 5/10 (thanks Bewitched)<blockquote>The problem is the expansion never really finds anything particularly new or interesting to do with it all. Almost all the missions are thinly veiled fetch quests and although the script avoids romanticising the Native American culture too much, the dialogue is always competent rather than sparkling.

There are few difficult moral decisions to make either, with the most important being a simple choice between going along with a comic book style evil bad guy or an equally unlikely goody-two-shoes.

The writers clearly want to say something more profound about tribalism and materialism but it all gets lost in a predictable morass of poorly staged shootouts, most of which mean you never really speak to anyone other than your mission givers. </blockquote>Gamefront, 50/100<blockquote>We have the story, which is just awful. There are three “tribes” of folks who inhabit Zion. There’s the White Legs, who you met first — we are told these people are evil, and the game “proves” it by having them shoot at you. Next are the Sorrows, who speak Spanish and are “innocent,” or so says their leader, white man Daniel. There’s a third group whose name I can’t remember because I honestly didn’t care about any of this, and they’re nice. (I’d look up their name, but I’m trying to make a point here, damn it.) That last group is led by Joshua Graham, a former Legion member who was set on fire and tossed into the Grand Canyon.

The plot is driven entirely by fetch quests as you try to help the Sorrows and Graham’s group in their battles with the evil White Legs, and in between fetch quests you’re treated to lots of moralizing about whether or not the good guys should fight for Zion or evacuate.Graham and Daniel make speeches and are generally annoying, and by the end I was ready to murder both of them.</blockquote>Gaming Irresponsibly, 8/10<blockquote>Overall Honest Hearts brings to the table a good story with all the regular Fallout gameplay and background information you would expect. But, it does so in a very small package with the average play time taking around two hours and maybe another half an hour or so for you to pick up the final achievement by completing the second option. This DLC is great overall but a few more missions really wouldn’t have gone a miss but at least we only have to wait till next month to find out what’s in store next.</blockquote>Trendkiller Online goes scoreless but seems to like it<blockquote>Overall, if you are invested in the Fallout universe, there is more than enough here to justify the $9.99/800 MS points they're charging. Needless to say, if you never played a Fallout game, I doubt this will be the first thing you buy, but it should be on your list if you consider yourself a fan. </blockquote>And finally, GameTrailers has one of their review pods, score is 7.1 (thanks Alphadrop).
 
We have the story, which is just awful. There are three “tribes” of folks who inhabit Zion. There’s the White Legs, who you met first — we are told these people are evil, and the game “proves” it by having them shoot at you. Next are the Sorrows, who speak Spanish and are “innocent,” or so says their leader, white man Daniel. There’s a third group whose name I can’t remember because I honestly didn’t care about any of this, and they’re nice. (I’d look up their name, but I’m trying to make a point here, damn it.) That last group is led by Joshua Graham, a former Legion member who was set on fire and tossed into the Grand Canyon.

The plot is driven entirely by fetch quests as you try to help the Sorrows and Graham’s group in their battles with the evil White Legs, and in between fetch quests you’re treated to lots of moralizing about whether or not the good guys should fight for Zion or evacuate.Graham and Daniel make speeches and are generally annoying, and by the end I was ready to murder both of them.

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Can someone tell me what exactly was wrong with this?

This really just sounds like some personal rant.
 
C2B said:
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Can someone tell me what exactly was wrong with this?

This really just sounds like some personal rant.

It is. Haven't really had the chance to see how good the story it is (though the consensus is on "kinda thin and not all that compelling" judging by reviews and gamers' opinion) but that didn't really feel like good criticism. More like someone on a forum.
 
I think Metro was the one who complained of Honest Hearts having 'less' missions that Point Lookout, which is pretty much nonsense.

HH has 21 compared to PL which total was 11 (ten regular and one repeated quest)
 
Ya know........Most of the hate seems based on poor comprehension........

They still look silly tho.
 
Gamefront sounds like some little kid banging keys because he couldn't pay attention to anything.

(There’s the White Legs, who you met first — we are told these people are evil, and the game “proves” it by having them shoot at you.)

The game "proves" that the White-Legs are bad because "durr they shoot at you?" it couldn't have been that they murdered whole other tribes to try and kill Joshua and the others, salted the earth so nothing could grow and so on? Oh, that would've required paying attention to the story though.

(Next are the Sorrows, who speak Spanish and are “innocent,” or so says their leader, white man Daniel.)

They don't speak just Spanish holmes, pay attention. They're innocent in that they haven't gone the way of just murdering people like White-Legs even though they attack them and such, so says their leader, WHITE MAN *Dun dun duunn?* Daniel.

(There’s a third group whose name I can’t remember because I honestly didn’t care about any of this, and they’re nice.)

Because they were only the second group you're introduced to, right after the start of the DLC, gah, so much to remember. Good reviewing attitude man, the kewwl & edgy vibe works so well.

(Graham and Daniel make speeches and are generally annoying, and by the end I was ready to murder both of them.)

GAH BRO, WORDS. CAVEMAN SMASH! :lol:
 
The people who complain about a lack of story are the same people who skip the dialouge and just read what the quest section of the "pit-boy" says. Seriously, how hard is it to remember the name Dead Horse?
 
WelcomeToNewReno said:
The people who complain about a lack of story are the same people who skip the dialouge and just read what the quest section of the "pit-boy" says. Seriously, how hard is it to remember the name Dead Horse?

*Is outraged* Hey you try remembering "9" letters!
 
TheGM said:
WelcomeToNewReno said:
The people who complain about a lack of story are the same people who skip the dialouge and just read what the quest section of the "pit-boy" says. Seriously, how hard is it to remember the name Dead Horse?

*Is outraged* Hey you try remembering "9" letters!
Especially when they're repeating several times.
Honestly all these reviews sound like being written by one person, the word choice feels so alike.
 
RoseKilla said:
TheGM said:
WelcomeToNewReno said:
The people who complain about a lack of story are the same people who skip the dialouge and just read what the quest section of the "pit-boy" says. Seriously, how hard is it to remember the name Dead Horse?

*Is outraged* Hey you try remembering "9" letters!
Especially when they're repeating several times.
Honestly all these reviews sound like being written by one person, the word choice feels so alike.

I can bet that the same people also wrote that F3's storyline was a lot more deep.
 
Wild guess and beside the topic, but: Can it be that many people who complain about the lack of story in some games for real complain about a lack of cinematic story?
 
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