Goddammit, I hate being wrong - showrunners fucked New Vegas

TheHouseAlwaysWins said:
So, if you think that lore/continuity denotes quality or is the reason you go into an experience like a movie or a tv show --well, that's the reason why you're on this dead forum and they're in Hollywood.
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And yet, you came here to bitch and moan in this dead forum, the sheer fucking irony. You are the one that needs to touch grass if you only come here to bitch about complainers.

Also, what people do with their time is none of your fucking business. Worry about yourself, people don't need your concern.
 
Norzan said:
Because some people want to feel superior and special, when in reality they should mind their business if they are gonna be far more obnoxious than the complainers themselves.
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That's the third person I've asked that since joining, all of them have been a part of this forum for close to or well over a decade.
 
CT Phipps said:
I mean only a tiny selection of fans draw any real difference. And justifiably so.
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Bruh you're an actual schizo if you really think there's no difference between how the west coast games treat the setting as compared to the east coast games.

Most people don't draw a distinction because they're super casual fans that played the 3d games and took one look at the old games and said "wow I don't care enough about those series to give that a shot" there are droves of nufans who will admit this.


CT Phipps said:
Chris Avellone are both sitting back to enjoy it.
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CT Phipps said:
I assume you read his other comments?





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None of this is praise for the show as a falout product tho? Walton goggins being a good actor is hardly a hot take.

Honestly even if he did like it it doesn't matter. Appeal to authority in this way is goofy. Especially when you're using a writer who is on record for wanting to destroy the setting
 
Why should we care what Chris Avellone thinks? We don't have to defer to authorities in order to interpret art and understand for ourselves that the show is a piece of shit.
 
CT Phipps said:
Probably because he helped make Fallout 2 and New Vegas.
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And? You don't need authorial intent to interpret art. Alex Garland made a movie with visual language that gives the complete opposite impression of what he intended with Civil War. And moreover, Chris Avellone is not an author of the TV show, so his opinions are his own and we don't have to defer to them as being authoritative. If he says something interesting then that's nice, but that's just him saying it.
 
I don't think he even wrote for fallout 2 wasn't he a level designer? And didn't he mostly work on new vegas DLC?
 
CT Phipps said:
Yes, they were not the same group...in Fallout 1.

They've been the same group since Fallout 2 and Dick Richardson explaining they controlled the Vaults.
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That doesn't mean Vault-Tec was the same group, they could have been just the contractors building the vaults according to government plans.
 
Hassknecht said:
That doesn't mean Vault-Tec was the same group, they could have been just the contractors building the vaults according to government plans.
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I mean, the Vaults are what Vault-Tec built prior to the show acting like they own everything. The Vaults are all for the Enclave and their scientists are all doing experiments for the Enclave (who else would be collecting data post-apocalypse?). Maybe that's splitting hairs but it seems like it's a sham company.
 
"authorial intent" only really matters insofar as one wants to determine the author's intent to aid in interpretation. However, the author's intent and the literal text can also be completely different things. Bad writers have this problem all the time because they are either not literate enough to communicate what they mean, or they're too stupid to convey their own thoughts.
 
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