Gun Control

TheGM said:
Worked didn't it.

Who could forget ESL, Autists and Boomers getting riled up by a joke that was over blown to fill a 24 hour news cycle. kinda like this Area fiddy one nonsense.
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But now Trump is proposing doing it but with Nukes. Satire is dead, the world got too stupid.
 
Walpknut said:
But now Trump is proposing doing it but with Nukes. Satire is dead, the world got too stupid.
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Most of the shit he says is troll bait and people bite that crap hook line and sinker not to mention those who process that into clickbait. Non of this matters. nothing is real. it is all going to end soon any way.
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Pray to our new god now so he can release us from this gay stupid planet.
 
And the military, which for a good part of the US in some situations is the police.

The roman model of no weapons inside our borders is allowed, we can put all of our bases and forces overseas.


That sounds about right.


lol.


No.
 
I'm not actually endorsing for taking away the guns but if you're going to argue it, you better be arguing that we take them away from police as well.
 
They won't, because the people who argue for gun confiscation are the type of people who love authority to tell them what to do in most cases.


It's ironic.



We're not Europe. They've been disarmed for most of their existence. It's a different world over there. They don't need guns the same way we do and can't understand their importance.

They would want them if NATO wasn't pulling security for them and their manpower wasn't pre-occupied with pulling kittens out of trees, writing tickets, and wasting tax money.
 
Crni Vuk said:
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Oh this is so easy to defeat. When medical errors happen they get a group of doctors and other medical professionals together to determine the best ways to avoid them. When car accidents happen they bring law enforcement and car manufacturers, and civil engineers together to determine the best methods.

Now when it comes to guns they seem to get every whiney crier and politician together with maybe law enforcement. No gun manufacturers, no expert groups, its all emotion with more police state.
 
I think you just gave your opinion on the matter.

At the end of the day this comes down to legislation and who's making it. The point is in some cases regulations can help. Do they solve all issues? No of course not. But there are many positions to consider here and while some extremist views, make less sense there are also a lot of opinions that do. There are also at least some gun owners who love their weapons which say some changes are in order. Not everything is always clear black and white.
 
We don't try to minimize medical errors. Medicine in English speaking countries is corrupt and ridden with careless deaths.

Also the reason I need a license for a car is because I drive it on public roads. I can keep my "Dangerous car" on my property and in designated areas.


Also we have far more checks already on firearms than what are needed. You won't change your mind so I'll keep voting republican. Yay. Retard. Stop punching yourself.

Thanks again russian bots for fanning the flames.
 
Gun culture keeps getting brought up. You people need to realize it is beyond that. It's war. A culture of war has descended upon us for decades on end and you keep pointing at the tools being used to wage the war while sucking the cocks of the people causing them. Stop sucking cock.

 
War on terror. War on drugs. War on poverty. War on War.



NO GUNS ALLOWED.

How do those simple minded Americans keep shooting things? How droll. *knife through face*
 
Crni Vuk said:
I think you just gave your opinion on the matter.

At the end of the day this comes down to legislation and who's making it. The point is in some cases regulations can help. Do they solve all issues? No of course not. But there are many positions to consider here and while some extremist views, make less sense there are also a lot of opinions that do. There are also at least some gun owners who love their weapons which say some changes are in order. Not everything is always clear black and white.
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I give up no opinion, I mean you Europeans have to do that now, hell I am surprised you are all still able to come on this forum with the amount of freedom it offers for speech. I just want legislation that is fact based, not emotion based. I want real experts on the topics involved not crying mothers whos gang banging son got shot down for pulling there illegal gun on the cops. Havin people who know nothing on the subject making the laws only equals bad legislation that makes no sense. Magazine sizes would be a good example of this, lets take an AR.

Standard magazine size for an AR-15 is 20 rounds as this is the size of the originally manufactured magazines for them. You can argue for 30 rounds on this as that would be the most common magazine size. But according to the non-fact based those are high-capacity magazines and you end up with a patch work of laws around this now that differ from state to state in the US, some states say standard should be 5, 7, or 10, or maybe 30 if the magazine is not easily changeable. What is the real answer? Well it all depends who you talk to, but any firearms expert or manufacturer would say 20, or 30. Hell here in Canada we are limited to 5, so we take the standard size and put a pin in it to limit it.

I want legislation based upon facts, not rainbows and unicorn farts or whatever somebody is feeling that day.
 
GonZo_626 said:
I give up no opinion, I mean you Europeans have to do that now, hell I am surprised you are all still able to come on this forum with the amount of freedom it offers for speech. I just want legislation that is fact based, not emotion based.
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Yeah ... if only. We're all somewhat driven by our emotions even those that claim they are not or say they only believe in facts. I like to think that I am some one who's mostly driven by facts and rationality but I guess most of the time it's not the case. Besides when it comes to "guns" everyone has his own facts and maybe some study which confirms their points or bias or what ever. I would say pretty much everyone in this has VERY strong emotions and there is nothing wrong with that. Be it the people that defend their second amendment or the ones that want more gun regulations. All I am saying is you can find gun owners, republicans, hunters and even gun fanatics out there which might agree to better laws and regulations regarding weapons. Again the picture here is not as black and white here as some like to paint it. What we're right now doing is always and constantly looking at the 'extreme' positions in those debates which is in my opinion completely crazy. Where one sides acts like guns are the root and cause of all problems and the others think the constitution was written for protecting guns and not people. It's not always about one or the other :



And I am not saying you give up your opinion I just wanted to say you stated your opinion you didn't defeat the points I quoted. This isn't like a math equation or physics. You have a strong opinion on that matter which I respect but that's it. An opinion.

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For example I really love to listen to what this guy here - someone who's very much in favour of guns - has to say on the topic :

 
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Crni Vuk said:
Yeah ... if only. We're all somewhat driven by our emotions even those that claim they are not or say they only believe in facts. I like to think that I am some one who's mostly driven by facts and rationality but I guess most of the time it's not the case. Besides when it comes to "guns" everyone has his own facts and maybe some study which confirms their points or bias or what ever. I would say pretty much everyone in this has VERY strong emotions and there is nothing wrong with that. Be it the people that defend their second amendment or the ones that want more gun regulations. All I am saying is you can find gun owners, republicans, hunters and even gun fanatics out there which might agree to better laws and regulations regarding weapons. Again the picture here is not as black and white here as some like to paint it. What we're right now doing is always and constantly looking at the 'extreme' positions in those debates which is in my opinion completely crazy. Where one sides acts like guns are the root and cause of all problems and the others think the constitution was written for protecting guns and not people.



And I am not saying you give up your opinion I just wanted to say you stated your opinion you didn't defeat the points I quoted. This isn't like a math equation or physics. You have a strong opinion on that matter which I respect but that's it. An opinion.
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Well Crni I have posted before I agree on some regulation of the system, but most of the ones I agree with you will find lots of gun owners agree with, universal background checks, and sensible licensing. But there are many things brought up that I will never agree with as I don't think any one gun is more or less dangerous than another. Every gun can kill someone and anyone with training can kill a lot of people with any gun, the type of action, how big the mag is, and a lot of those are superficial that will not actually effect anything. If someone can be trusted to own one gun they should be trusted to own any gun. Giving me a big Ma deuce belt fed 50 cal with 5000 rounds on belts and you will not find one dead human body. You may find many dead cars and kitchen appliances as I go have a good time with it.

People control is more effective than gun control.
 
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