Briosa's right, but I'll continue debunking the cow pie.
J.E.Sawyer said:
Actually, I'm pretty sure that if Brotherhood of Steel had sold much better than it had, Interplay might have had enough money to continue paying the Black Isle employees who were working on Van Buren.
I'm pretty sure you're now an idiot, Bishop. You weren't always that way, but now you're pulling some seriously moronic crap out of your ass. Read what you wrote above.
It's easy for you to make such asinine statements that ignore the obvious, that Interplay chose to kill off the project and it wasn't because of money, or they were counting on the console sales versus BIS' work. Especially given the wad of shit of Lionheart. Do you and Feargie have excuses for THAT one, or are we supposed to believe the asinine assumption that if people are going to buy the game, it would have resulted in BIS becoming Crown Champion of Interplay, deserving money? Funny, I thought BIS was axed
in favor of the console game. And then there was the constant funnelling of monies to Titus.
I'm quite disappointed you tried to blow smoke up our asses, Sawyer. Hostile fans make it clear that they are not willing to budge, compromises end up in other titles I've mentioned, including ones that I Poor press releases/magazine articles and some producer babbling some crap a la Chucky does nothing but piss the fans off, especially when we were at a point where it became cordial. It's hard to be cordial when someone's dropping marketing buzzwords at Fallout for a second helping of F
OS.
Complacent fans only result in the publisher wanting the development be taken to a more "trendy" venue, which usually results in the series dying. "Nice" is easy to ignore. Your previous Asst. Janitor Danien had the right term of "empirical evidence", but until there's overwhelming evidence to the contrary, we'll go by our experiences in gaming and the Fallout franchise.
I have pointed out the logic flaws in fans being critical about a game at the wrong time - after it is released. And frankly, until we have something that we like, we're going to be critical of what they say, because including apologists like yourself, we've dealt with enough dishonesty thrown our way to tolerate much more. That includes constant tripe from the lead BioWare Bitch there, especially his babbling about TORN and Lionheart.
It is also funny that you think that we're not on the same general wavelength. I would say that most of the regulars have a firm idea of the setting and their own views on what could be done to improve the game, and even those could use a bit of refining. Much like the refining you and Feargus could enjoy if you had someone check anything you post for rampant stupidity and outright dishonesty. Those who aren't on that wavelength are the kids that want to put puerile garbage into the game - which we've been trying to avoid given the LAST Fallout title BIS released. Remember that one? I hope you do, since it seems you can't remember the events of not yet a year ago.
Taking some dumb kid getting flamed for wanting flashbangs and other CS crap in Fallout 3, and twisting it out of context, isn't going to work.
Bottom line, F
OS came out AFTER BIS and Van Buren were axed.
BIS was closed down LAST YEAR. Obsidian was formed shortly after.
How could FOS sales have helped if it was released THIS YEAR? So to use the "if FBOS sold more, it would have been helping Van Buren" is a complete lie*, and only worked before F
OS was released and (get this, because it's the ironic part) the "buy the spin-off to pay for the development of the main title" has been debunked so many times and proven false. That dumbshit line only works for Feargus and those who have no sense of "sequence of events".
Gotcha, shithead. See? We're only aggro to those who are dishonest with us.
* - Correction, that it would have had any effect upon paychecks, development, or anything like that, since those controlling the money put it elsewhere. Having a bit more from the sales of F
OS, given how much was tossed into a now-dead company, is negligible at best. They had money, they chose where to put it.
Edited because the wording Bishop used was quite sketchy, alluding to F
OS having some effect at a time when really couldn't.
