KQX vs Tokyo

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Now this is a really old topic, i know... it's just that i am interested in seeing if KQX gives us a post mortem of his trip over Japan, since i'm studying some issues that deal with Japan's economy and cultural diferences.

And i'm curious to see how the trip ended, so KQX, what gives? Tell us more, please.
 
I'm going back to Tokyo for 2 weeks at the end of the month. Getting psyched, it's been 2 or 3 years since I was there last. Can't wait to drink my in-laws under the table. :twisted:
 
Well I was there for four years (read some of my impressions on the previous page - I could probably write you a book if you ask me enough questions), and I've been back in the states for about 2 or 3, so in a way I'm still looking at the 'States with foreign eyes. Needless to say things changed alot in America when I was gone (Sept. 11th, Iraq War etc.), so I'm still feeling reverse-culture shock.

OK random thoughts-
Compared to America, Japan is all about the harmony. Not too much, not to little - just right, they live a reasonable, unexcessive lifestyle. Where my American bros and sisters are all about BIGGER FASTER LOUDER MORE MORE MORE! which isn't always better. However sometimes the status quo sucks, and you need an obnoxious whiney American to break your precious harmony and say "Hey this fuckin' sucks we gotta change it" instead of quietly sitting on your hands saying "it can't be helped, we've always done it like this" to maintain the harmony.

Japanese are very deliberate, carefull, fastidious. They take a lot of pride in what they do. But I'm American, I want shit NOW! That's wonderfull that you can wrap my shirt so conscientiously in the deptartment store so no seams show, but how bout a fucking break it's already wrapped, boxed, and in celophane. Takes me 5 minutes to unwrap it when I get home, and I'm no environMenetalist but all this unnecessary wrapping is absurd. How bout firing the wrapping paper girls, and reducing your prices by 5% instead? Save me time and money and get onto your next customer because I don't give a fuck how pretty you can wrap shit.

I'm trying to be fair to both the US and Japan, because seriously for every upside, there's an equal downside. I had a friend over there who's favorite line was, "In a country where I can get a cell phone the size of a credit card, why can't I...". The pendulum swings both ways depending on what kind of day I'm having.
 
So I returned to Chicago in September last year after spending 2 months working in Tokyo. But, as Briosa mentioned, I haven’t really finalized my observations in this thread. Not really sure why, I think I kind of assumed there wasn’t much interest. Actually I remember Kharn said something like he doesn’t read “guess what happened to me” type threads. But that really wasn’t the point of my postings I think. Even though it is a somewhat personal story I intended to write stuff about Japan that might not be common knowledge. Some of you guys might visit Japan in the future and maybe you'll remember some things which were mentioned in this thread. Perhaps you won't be regarded as just another ignorant gaijin because you remembered something KQX told you here. Something like...

DON'T blow your nose in public when you're in Japan. For some reason, this would probably be considered worse than if you decided to take a leak in public. If you have a runny nose, you should just keep sniffing until you find a bathroom where you can conduct your "private" business. Good thing I was there for the summer.

Hey, Cimmerian Nights, I thought you said you came to Tokyo to teach some English. Obviously you haven’t done such a great job since the majority of the people can barely understand English, and it’s even less likely to understand their version of English. The interesting thing is that you can communicate in English much better if you write stuff down for people. The reason is that the Japanese language doesn't have a large distinction between strongly and weakly stressed syllables. This is also why some foreigners might regard Japanese as sounding very monotonous. A good example of this is the word "Hot Dog". When it is said in English, the stress is clearly on the first "o". Many Japanese people will say they heard you say "hod" instead of "hot dog" because the "t" and "g" are less audible to them. There is also an issue with slurring. American English tends to sometimes slur the middle segments of some words or phrases. The Japanese are more inclined to slur the beginning and end of words/phrases. Because of this, many Japanese will not understand a gaijin's version of Japanese words and vice versa. It's very clear that the Japanese like the English language though. I've seen so many people walking around in shirts that contain full paragraphs of some random English sentences (which sometimes barely have any meaning).

Speaking of clothes, I have to say I liked some of the fashion that the ladies were enforcing in Tokyo. I've seen several fine females wearing tight jeans which are fully unbuttoned and unzipped. The color and style of panties becomes a much more important factor in this case, I guess. Needless to say, I approve of this fashion trend. I also bet a lot of fat chicks in the U.S. can't wait until that trend becomes more popular here. They can finally stop worrying about that top button popping out.

I got to spend only one weekend outside of Tokyo when I visited Kyoto. Unlike Tokyo, Kyoto wasn’t so severely affected by war and natural disasters, so the whole city is full of great historical locations. It’s also much less crowded that Tokyo and the pollution is very minimal, so you can actually see the mountain tops that surround the city (mountains can rarely be seen from Tokyo because of the heavy smog). It’s a little harder to get around for foreigners because there is a very limited amount of English translations on buses and streets. But despite this it really was a breath of fresh air to spend some time in a smaller town. The mountains outside of town are also a nice place to visit. If you hike through the woods there, you might run into some Japanese monkeys. They are hard to spot at times since they’re well camouflaged. Here’s a photo I took:

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I have about 700 photos from my trip, only about a 100 are online. Most of the online ones are very touristy though. I think I’ll include a kind of "miscellaneous” album with like weird toilets and vending machines and crap like that.

If everything works out as planned, I should be able to go back again this summer (from august until mid September). Same deal as last year: work 12 hours a day, and free weekends to explore. Hopefully I’ll get to do some stuff I missed out on last year…maybe visit Hiroshima? We’ll see.
 
Well I got back 2 weeks ago. I'll spare you all the mundane details unless you care to ask.

You know there's the superficial stuff about Japan (a la Larry King):
-If you're 5"10 or higher be warned: you will whack your head on the doorways in homes and you will never be able to buy shoes in Japan.
-You know, slag manga all you want but I wish America were as literate as Japan. Books, newspapers, comics, who cares, at least they read.
-In my country there is an unwritten rule that you never bump into someone who's larger than you and/or can kick your ass. This is because when you absentmidndedly bump into large people in busy train stations, they won't see you and you will get knocked on your ass.
-As a New Englander I love all sea-food - crabs, clams, scallops, mussels, lobsters, shrimp, prawn, even octopus and squid. Jelly-fish and sea weed however are things you swim around when in the ocean, not culinary delights.
-If anyone ever doubts the cultural contributions that African-Americans have made to American culture, please listen to J-pop. I guarantee you will hug the next black guy you see. But let me expand on this. It seems to me the Japanese would rather see something mediocre done by Japanese, than something exceptional done by foreigners. Take baseball: 2 Gai-jin limit. Why? because cheap and talented Americans/S.Americans/Dominicans etc. would gobble up many of the positions if the system were based on merit. So the message is: we don't want to see good baseball, we want to see decent baseball played by Japanese (with a few over-the-hill Americans to score homeruns).
-If you're polite not because you want to be but because you have to be, it's worse than being impolite. Stop kissing my ass and we'll both have more dignity.
-When I ask if you speak english and you say "No I can't speak english" you're a douchebag.
-Yes white guys can use chopsticks, relax. Should I do a standing ovation whenever I see an Asian guy with a fork?
-It's easier to get a whore than it is to see pubic hair in a porno, why?
-Japanese boys collect beetles. I was in a dept. store and saw a special beetle container that would keep the insects out - cuz you wouldn't want some dirty fucking fly in with your beetle would you?
-You know when you go to a Chinese restaurant in the states and there some asian sounding music and decor, and to us it's Chinese. But you just know a real Chinese person would probably bitch "These is Taiwanese music, and Szechwan food, and the painting is of Korea, and that beer is from Singapore are you guys retarded?" That's what it's like going to a western restaurant in Japan. They love foreign things, they just can't quite get them right - We saw Santa Claus crucifed in a dept. store Christmas display right sent. We could very well be committing the same cultural atricities in our Chinese restaurants and not even know it.

Just one heavy issue. Japan has some real problems with beauracracy/overdevelopment/and destruction of it's environment and culture which I probably couldn't explain as well as Alex Kerr did in Dogs and Demons. So maybe I'll post on that later if I can organize my thoughts on it.


@KQX you're going back in August? It's gonna be brutally hot and humid dude. August is hell in Japan, you sweat from pores in your body that you never knew you had. I used to take 3 cold showers a day in the summer. It actually gets too hot to fuck, or maybe I just drank too much nihon-shyu. :freak:
 
Welcome back!

Cimmerian Nights said:
If you're 5"10 or higher be warned: you will whack your head on the doorways in homes and you will never be able to buy shoes in Japan.

I don't know. I'm 6'2" (188 cm) and I don't remember encountering many problems. But then again I haven't been in too many people's homes. THe advertisements on the subway clipped my head a little. As for the shortness stereotype, I don't really think it's that true especially for younger generations. Japanese teenagers now don't look much shorter than American teens.

Cimmerian Nights said:
-It's easier to get a whore than it is to see pubic hair in a porno, why?

What? Japanese Pr0n has too much pubic hair

Cimmerian Nights said:
That's what it's like going to a western restaurant in Japan.

I would really like to go to an AmericaTown restaurant like in that Simpsons episode. Any good places Cimmie?


Cimmerian Nights said:
Japan has some real problems with beauracracy

I wouldn't know much about this, but I will say this in Japan's defence: Their Consulates / Embassies are great. Extremealy polite, helpful, and provide fast results. I'm picking up my visa today and I just applied for it yestarday. Now let's take the Italian consulate, where I have also applied for a visa this year. Completely inneficient and slow with an extremely impatient and rude staff that do everything in their power to make the process go worse. But I won't diss the Italians too much since I did get a visa (after 2 weeks of waiting) and am flying to Milan on Tuesday.


Cimmerian Nights said:
@KQX you're going back in August? It's gonna be brutally hot and humid dude.

Yep, from August 3rd until September 16th. The weather is going to suck, I know, but this is the only time of the year I can be there. I can't say it's really brutally hot, it's just the the humidity is out of control. But, who cares. I'm not going to get too annoyed over minor details.
 
KQX said:
Welcome back!
It's good to be back.

KQX said:
What? Japanese Pr0n has too much pubic hair
Truthfully I didn't watch much porn but IIRC over there they "fuzz out" the genitals (like they do a perp's face on 'Cops'). They call it a mosaic, and always claim it's got something to do with hair, although that's probably just the polite Japanese way of saying "we don't want to show muff". I guess my point is, they overregulate the porn in the 7-11 but the HS Girl Hostess Club next door doesn't bother anybody.

KQX said:
I would really like to go to an AmericaTown restaurant like in that Simpsons episode. Any good places Cimmie?

The Italian restaurants I went to were particularly egregious offenders. Keep the seaweed and cod roe off the spaghetti, you're gonna give Enzo a fuggin' heart attack capice? Every other western restaurant seems to have the same menu - ceasar salad-a, omlette-rice, curry rice, stew, and tiramisu or flan - of course these aren't what we would recognize as such because they are Japanisized version. You can find good western food but it's hard to find. And in a really bizarre twist, they have Beni-hana in Tokyo(the over the top American Japanese restaurant where the chef chops your food up and flips it around) I guess because liking all things western means liking the idea of what Americans imagine a fun Japanese restaurant to be like.

I will say though that Mossburger and Becker's are better than any American burger chain hands down.

I'm not saying Japanese don't have taste in western things, one trip to Ginza will disprove that theory - Cartier, Prada, Louis Vuitton, Tiffany etc. I've seen more Ferraris in Tokyo then I've seen in my whole life in the US. It's the mainstream things - and this is a country that prides itself on it's huge middle class.

There is a place in Odaiba called Palette Town (they really do try) that's like an indoor recreation of a Italian/Mediterranean market I guess. I suppose Vegas has similar venues though. Odaiba is the place to take a girl on a date.
 
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Well, my summer escapades are over and it’s time to return to school (and NMA) full time again. Might as well update this thread for now.

I think I did everything I set out to do for the summer, which I’ve been planning since January. I had a full time job from June ‘till mid September, took an online university course, 2 week vacation in Italy, and of course a month and a half of work and fun in Tokyo.

This time around, the trip was a lot more work oriented. I had more responsibilities that demanded more time and effort. The original plan was for me to start doing some actual options trading, but that didn’t get fully realized. I did get to have my own trading station and I would sometimes take over for a trader during the slower evening sessions, but that mostly involved “babysitting” their current position and making sure none of the auto-trading programs go wrong.

I was invited to many company outings after work; much more than last year. Even though this was an American firm, there are a lot of Japanese employees and going out with co-workers is a very Japanese thing to do. And this isn’t like going to get a few drinks at the bar across the street form the office. This means having dinner at one place, then drinks at another, then grabbing a taxi to the other side of town to go to hostess clubs until 1am. But then the challenge is to get enough sleep so you can be ready for work again tomorrow morning.

I didn’t have problems with hangovers, but it was difficult to stay focused in the mornings after nights like this. The double espressos didn’t help either. After a while I decided to calm down on the work-nights. The Japanese have an interesting way of coping with this, which is taking a lot of power naps. This is why when you walk into a subway train in the morning, almost everyone is sleeping. Even during lunch breaks in the office, it wasn’t unusual to see someone sleeping in their chair. That’s how they would charge up so they can go out after work again.

On the weekends I went around the city. I saw a bunch of museums, festivals, and took several boat rides along the Tokyo Bay. It was immediately clear to me why there aren’t any beaches nearby:

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I went though all the essential foods again: Yakinikku, Yakitori, Shabu-Shabu, Sushi, Sashimi, Tempura…. The new thing I had this year was Fugu (that poisonous blowfish thing). It was prepared and served in a variety of forms and they even put the fins in the sake. I was actually surprised that it was all pretty tasty, and I didn’t even need to go to the hospital afterwards.

There’s one interesting thing I noticed about restaurant and café in general. It’s very hard for the employees to deviate from certain sets of “rules”. For example, if a set of food includes a particular drink, it’s very unusual if for some reason you want something different. Here’s a particular situation: I come in the Excelsior Café for a soup and sandwich set, which comes with a choice of either coffee or tea. I didn’t feel like either, so I ordered a soda…

Girl: But sir, the set doesn’t come with a soda. Only coffee or tea.
Me: Yeah, I know. It’s fine, I’ll just pay extra for the small soda.
Girl: But….the set comes with either coffee or tea.
Me: That’s OK, you don’t need to serve me that. I’ll still pay for the whole set.
Girl: *confused pause* you don’t want coffee or tea?

It’s amazing. It’s as if the soup and sandwich cannot physically exist without a coffee or tea because that’s what the menu says. But even with these minor annoyances, as Cimmerian Nights mentioned, the level of service and hospitality is at such a higher level than anywhere else.

Some of the other Gaijin I’ve met say that they wouldn’t live anywhere else. I know this Cuban guy who grew up in Chicago who has now lived in Tokyo for 11 years. He told me about how he’s often very disappointed when he comes back to visit the States. If he goes to some Chicago restaurant once and then returns after a week or two, no one will notice and even if someone did, no one will react differently to him. In Tokyo, when he comes back to a place, people always remember him and make him feel much more comfortable and welcomed. It’s not just because of the higher service level, but because in Japan, he’s the other, the different guy, the guy that everyone will actually remember. After a while he got use to this, I guess, and now there’s no going back for him.

I’m not sure how I feel about the whole thing yet. Next year I’ll be done with college and I’ll be looking for full time employment. There certainly might be a possibility that I may join the firm I have been interning in, but living in Japan seems unlikely. The most important reason for that is the fact that I still need to get my U.S. citizenship. Before I can apply, I need to go through the residency phase which I just kind of started last year. After that, who knows? It’s still nice to know that I may have that option.
 
If I ever go to Japan, I'll start a clothing line, mostly pants. I'd call this clothing line "JaPants". Just the name alone will ensure my success.

Anyway, back to topic. Is it easy to get laid in Japan?
 
Stock said:
Anyway, back to topic. Is it easy to get laid in Japan?

Short answer…yes.

But you can’t just sit back and wait for it to happen. In general though, if you know where to go, there are lots of different opportunities out there. Cimmerian Nights would do better with the details (see previous page).

You should be prepared to spend a decent amount of coin. Nights out in Tokyo can be expensive, even if it’s just a matter of transportation (you gotta take a cab after midnight, subways are closed). Roppongi is the famous area with the most foreign-friendly bars/clubs. But again, you should be careful. There are so many stories of oblivious gaijin who had no idea how much money they were spending until they saw the bill.
 
Yeah if you can't get laid in Roppongi then you should probably cut it off. To tell the truth though, I didn't move to Tokyo to hang around with drunken American military yahoos. I lived and worked in Ikebukuro so I generally hung around there, with some occaisional benders in Shinjuku and Shibuya.

Nights out are expensive, I can remember this one bar near my office, it was 6 or 7 bucks for a Sam Adams, and $8 for a pint of Guiness! I'm a cheap bastard, so I stayed away from hostess bars and such - I relied only on my good looks and charm :wink: . A night out in Tokyo can be cheap if you know the right places to go to - you can generally find or negotiate a couple hours of all-you-can-drink service at a Izakaya, karaoke bar or restaurant. Beer Gardens in the summertime are lots of fun too. I have to think the folks who calculate the profit/losses of these kind of events don't factor in the strength of the gai-jin liver when it comes to processing alcohol.

If you've got the money Kabuki-cho is probably the biggest red-light district in Tokyo. It's the Yakuza town of Tokyo, so expect to get hustled.
 
and i thought scandinavian countries had a real problem with the prices of alcohol... sjeezes.

but seriously though: is it really true that those poor japs can't hold their liquor? i've always had trouble accepting it simply by hearing people say it. it's probably like saying dutchies are stingy bastards, french chicks have hairy armpits, english chicks are ugly, and so on & so forth.

of course, they are smaller & hence have less weight to throw in the balance, but that can't really matter that much? i know small people (no not midgets you pervs...) that can hold their liquor just fine.
 
As I've heard explained by Japanese (so it's really all hearsay) some of them lack an enzyme that breaks alcohol down, much like native Americans.

I can't drink with my wife, she has one glass of wine, her face turns red like a tomato and she just giggles. It takes me at least an hour and a concearted effort to get past the buzz phase, by which point she's stopped drinkning for the night.

To their credit, whatever condition (perceived or otherwise) they do enjoy drinking. Beer, whiskey, sake, wine everything. And walking arounf Tokyo on a Saturday night you will see some stupid drunk people, guarteed you see one salaryman passed out on the side walk, and plenty of puddles of puke. It gets really nasty when you're on a packed subway and some dude starts spewing, but there's nowhere to run. :puke:
 
What is an Gayjin... sorry Gaijin ?

When i was 15/16 years old i always dreamt to go to Japan, but after the DragonBall Z - Season finally ended in Germany i dont wanted anymore. :P

They are all freaks, only thing i would buy is some Katana Sword.
 
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