Lack of Russian and German weapons

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Quagmire69

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The only one that I can think of is the hunting rifle. Since Fallout is supposed to be 50's era America could'nt they have some WWII German SMGS.

Honestly I've gotten really tired of just having American weopons.
 
Well, Fallout 1 and 2 had quite a lot german weaponry.
The Plasma Pistol, the Vindicator Minigun, the Gauss rifle and pistol, the 10mm smg, HK CAWS, HK G11 and the HK L30 Gatling Laser.
And of course the 9mm Mauser, and you might count the 14mm pistol, although that one is from Switzerland.
Why the hunting rifle? It's not that much like a K98.
And since when is Fallout 50's era America? I thought it was the 21xx's and 22xx's.
Some of there weapons are still in New Vegas. But since they left out the item descriptions, it's not obvious where they come from.
 
And since when is Fallout 50's era America? I thought it was the 21xx's and 22xx's.
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I've always been confused by that, people say its supposed to have the spirit of 50's America even though its in the future.

Well, Fallout 1 and 2 had quite a lot german weaponry.
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Agreed, 3 had alot of Russian weopons too. Vegas seems to be a very American centered armoury.

Why the hunting rifle? It's not that much like a K98.
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It looks alot like the Russian Moisin to me.
 
The Mosin? Not really. The bolt is completely different, the stock completely different, just... no :D
The sight might be close, but everything else is off.
Fallout 3 had russian-inspired chinese weapons, yeah, but not all that many. The chinese assault rifle, that's it. The chinese pistol was based on the Mauser.
We just don't know anything about the weapons anymore. They better bring back item descriptions in the next installment.
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Fallout takes place in "The World of Tomorrow", the future how the people of the 50's imagined the future to be, especially the pulp-authors.
 
Well, to be fair F3 also had some russian and german weaponry although it was described and named differently. These are the ones i remember:

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It makes sense I mean with all the hate during the 50's I'm sure foreign weaponry would probably be considered terrorist support just by having them. You never know.
 
The combat shotgun looks like a PPsh, but it doesn't actually make sense for one. or at all. I don't think there has ever been a Luger in Fallout, the chinese assault rifle was a mix of like four different sorts of AK pattern rifles. The hunting rifle could be any of a dozen just sort of generic bolt action .308's, probably for shootin' deer. I doubt it's any particular piece of milsurp, because then it wouldn't be shooting .308 and would look like it.

The plasma defender is supposed to be a glock, by the way. That's Austrian. This Machine was designed by a Canadian, the 12.7mm pistol would be swiss as well, belonging to SiG.Oh and the 9mm pistol is a Browning Hi-Power and is belgian.

BUt really, until they give us item descriptions again, it's really hard to say what exactly is supposed to be foreign and what's not.
 
the chinese pistol is chinese.. its a bigger version of the c96 chambering .45acp

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Whilst set in the a 1950-imagining of the future it isn't the 1950's, by the time of the Great War the Second World War occured more than 100 years ago.

And yes weapons like the BAR and such are apparently still manufactured, that's different though; your saying that there should have been an influx in German weapons because there was in the 1950's aparently.
 
Wintermind said:
Mobucks: You're an idiot, y'know that, right? The C96 was made by Mauser. In Germany. Which is not in China.
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Didn't the Chinese make a knock off version of it though?
 
Yeah, and the Chinese decided to make a fully automatic version of the gun.

You know, despite the fact that the weapon was not meant to fire so rapidly and would more often then not jam with the ejected bullet casings.

Then some enterprising Chinese guy figured out that if you held the gun sideways, it wouldn't jam so much.

And thus, Gangsta Style was created.
 
generalissimofurioso said:
Yeah, and the Chinese decided to make a fully automatic version of the gun.

You know, despite the fact that the weapon was not meant to fire so rapidly and would more often then not jam with the ejected bullet casings.

Then some enterprising Chinese guy figured out that if you held the gun sideways, it wouldn't jam so much.

And thus, Gangsta Style was created.
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There were german C96 models that were fully automatic, too.
 
Mobucks: You're an idiot, y'know that, right? The C96 was made by Mauser. In Germany. Which is not in China.
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When did I say the C96 was the Chinese Pistol from New Vegas? It is NOT a C96, do some research you aptly named prick.
 
Well, there is no chinese pistol in New Vegas, so I'll assume you meant Fallout 3.
But the Type 17 pistol is made in China, you're right.
The weapon design is german, of course.
 
Hassknecht said:
Well, there is no chinese pistol in New Vegas, so I'll assume you meant Fallout 3.
But the Type 17 pistol is made in China, you're right.
The weapon design is german, of course.
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oh, my bad. project nevada adds every weapon from fallout 3.
 
I would have liked for the .32 caliber hand made looking "hunting rifle" from FA3 to have been in FNV.

I dont think there were enough crap guns in FNV. The .32 revolver would also have been a good addition... it would work against powder gangers and other crap near goodsprings.

There should have been a reason for the 9mm pistol to have been "better" than a previous gun... other than being better than throwing rocks.

The FA3 Assault rifle (CETME) would have been pretty interesting in .308... but they basically re did it with the Automatic Rifle in Dead Money.

The Chinese AK was ok, and might have been a nice alternative to the 5mm assault carbine. Assuming the Chinese AK did not use AP ammo, there would be a reason that both would be useful for different applications.
 
mobucks said:
Mobucks: You're an idiot, y'know that, right? The C96 was made by Mauser. In Germany. Which is not in China.
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When did I say the C96 was the Chinese Pistol from New Vegas? It is NOT a C96, do some research you aptly named prick.
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I know a broomhandle when I see one, son. Whether it's shitty chinese knock off version, it's still a fucking broomhandle. It's like insisting that the 'chinese assault rifle' be referred to by the chinese designations for their AK pattern rifles because it's supposed to be chinese.

why the fuck would they have been bringing over a hundred+ year old pistol design I don't know.

F3's AR isn't inherently a CETME, it looks a lot more like a mix of CETME and various G3 pattern rifley bits. Charging handle was weak as shit and there was a perfectly good opportunity for a HK slap which there wasn't which is just terrible.
 
Its a chinese pistol based on german design. Nya nya nya! The Chinese made this gun to use the more common (in the area) .45 acp. It uses different ammo, is larger, and the feed extends below the trigger guard. So this statement:

Wintermind said:
Mobucks: You're an idiot, y'know that, right? The C96 was made by Mauser. In Germany. Which is not in China.
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is utterly retarted, since we are discussing weapons in fallout 3, where the C96 does not exist. If you still have issue with it, call bethesda and tell them to patch the game so the gun is called "Chinese pistol made in china but of german design"

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generalissimofurioso said:
Yeah, and the Chinese decided to make a fully automatic version of the gun.

You know, despite the fact that the weapon was not meant to fire so rapidly and would more often then not jam with the ejected bullet casings.

Then some enterprising Chinese guy figured out that if you held the gun sideways, it wouldn't jam so much.

And thus, Gangsta Style was created.
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Did you get this info from MGS3?
 
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