MCA's Kickstarter and Wasteland 2 Thoughts

Brother None

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Chris Avellone shares some thoughts about Kickstarter and Wasteland 2 on his blog, reminiscing about the excellent first title.<blockquote>So the whole Kickstarter model, Double Fine’s adventure game, and now the hopes of Fargo bringing Wasteland on-line is amazing. It’s probably no secret after Old World Blues how much I enjoyed Wasteland and giant scorpions and proton weapons, but Wasteland has a lot of my childhood tied up in it. To explain: I was in early high school, I was coming off of the Bard’s Tale series and needed another fix... and from what I saw of Wasteland on the back cover of the package, it seemed to fit the bill. I was wrong.

Why? When I booted it up, I found it confusing and not like Bard’s Tale at all - (well, beyond the combat), and the navigation especially threw me off a bit at first. Separate the party? What did all these skills exactly do? Where was I supposed to go? I was prepared for several more hours of disappointment and thought I’d wasted my money. I was used to the faux-3D corridors and environments... then a number of things happened that woke me up to what this title was doing, and I realized Interplay had made something different and well on par with Bard’s Tale. Such as...

- I was placed in an unpleasant moral situation early on in the title when I hit Highpool. I had to put down someone’s pet, and just as expected, the owner wasn’t happy about the situation I was placed in. And I felt horrible. This was in the first 15 minutes, and the game had caused a new reaction in me I’d never had when playing an RPG.

- Skill progression started defining my character’s personality. There was enough skill choices for me to start imagining what these Rangers had been trained in, what their talents were, and the ability to choose nationality of the characters fleshed them out even more, especially my RPG-toting near-silent Russian demolitions strongman, Romanov, who I began to build an increasingly-complex backstory for. (And yes, my Mom probably worried about me.)

- Despite the graphics at the time, the locations were areas I couldn’t have imagined, certainly not in a computer game. Here was a game where I could use my Intelligence to fight adversaries, transport my consciousness into an android’s brain and battle my character’s childhood fears, contract some serious post-apocalyptic STDs, use a mortar to blow up sections of towns, help a nomadic tribe of railroad tribals predict the future with snake-squeezed moonshine, and navigate a mine-covered golf course only to come face to face with a giant robotic scorpion in the middle of Vegas. Not to mention the range of enemies, personalities, and allies that can join you – all of these things didn’t require some high-tech solution, only a different approach to the game context.

In any event, hats off to Fargo and InXile, I’m definitely putting my money down when they start up their Kickstarter fund, and I’ll donate just as much as I did to Double Fine. Give me Wasteland 2 already. </blockquote>In related news, Fargo revealed that the $50 tier for Kickstarter donations will be an old-fashioned boxed copy.<blockquote>It looks like a few of you have figured out one of the tier awards. The $50 tier gets full box, docs and maps the way games used to be.</blockquote>
 
Brother None said:
In related news, Fargo revealed that the $50 tier for Kickstarter donations will be an old-fashioned boxed copy.

Oh snap! I was actually thinking about suggesting this via twitter the other day! Fuckin' A, man. First vinyl makes a major come-back, now old-school PC games? I'M SO FUCKING DOWN FOR THIS!!
 
Brother None said:
In related news, Fargo revealed that the $50 tier for Kickstarter donations will be an old-fashioned boxed copy.<blockquote>It looks like a few of you have figured out one of the tier awards. The $50 tier gets full box, docs and maps the way games used to be.</blockquote>

Well, I am at least putting down $50 on this then. I am a sucker for maps. Especially those of a cloth variety. <3
 
Brother None said:
You don't, yet. They should have a Kickstarter page up next month.

OK then, thanks. Speaking of Double Fine's Kickstarter, two people actually donated above $10,000! Goddamn it. I bet it's Bill Gates.

Hopefully I'll scrap enough cash to pay for the box. Interesting to see how the game will come out, like a posh engine applied and an actual soundtrack.
 
I would not normally put $50 dollars down on something like this but, I am seriously considering it now. Awesome fan treatment guys! I am a sucker for maps. :D
 
I've got a question about the whole Kickstarter thing.
I'm familiar with it, but not in-depth, so pardon my ignorance.

How long do these things (on average, if there is such) last, and has there been any mention so far how long the Wasteland Kickstarter will be live (or what are your predictions).
Again, pardon my ignorance.

The reason I'm asking is that I would like to go for the 50$, but that's no small money for me, and I'd have to plan ahead for it. Plus, I'd need to solve some debt card issues I'm having before that.

Thanks in advance, and sorry for a bit of offtopic.
I'm new to the whole Wasteland world, but this is something I'm excited about and would like to own it, in a "proper way".
 
A couple months, if I'm remembering correctly. I'd imagine they're going to go live very soon, not sure when. But I'd imagine they've sort of got to want at least a bit of a start on the game before launching the Kickstarter campaign.
 
i guess it will be around 1 month. If you give money, your card will not be charged right away. Money transfer happens only if the kickstarter project was successful. So if wasteland 2 needs to raise 1million in 30 days and fails this goal, nobodys money is taken.... As far as i am aware of it right now. So in theory it might be an open door for people with stolen cards to make some big lolz with it~ thats pure speculation from my side, though.
 
Correct, you do not get the money unless your minimum is met. I know this painfully as my bands first Kickstarter campaign failed only a couple hundred short. :(
 
Boxed copy? Yep, I do believe I'm in for this.

On a side note, I've seen people argue that we should be thanking Bethesda for buying Fallout, because otherwise there never would have been another game in the series. That argument seems to be shredding before our eyes. If it can happen for Wasteland, it certainly could have happened for Fallout.
 
I don't think it's that simple, though. not trying to defend Bethesda or anything, but would the gamer crowd, media and developers have the same stance on old-school rpg's, turn-based combat, the post-apocalyptic setting etc if it wasn't for all the discussion around the new Fallout games? maybe they sort of did us a favor by indirectly creating a need for something better?
 
Good point anenemic, but a good portion of the diverse crowd of gamers don't need companies putting out stinkers in droves to figure out what they like. (Some are told what to like and they bow, I'll admit.)

This discussion wouldn't be any less traveled had Bethesda not entered the Fallout franchise, or if the game field wasn't stuffed with same ole stuff. You've giving them undue credit.
 
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