Scones for the refugees

[requiem_for_a_starfury]

Got any tea and biscuits? Earl Grey if possible as I can't stand that Lipton rubbish!

Earl Grey, what's wrong with PG Tips?

Another asylum seeker from DaC here, I'm afraid.... Grumpy, reactionary and occasionally helpful old Brit with own teeth, hair and middle age spread seeks intelligent debates with some venting of spleen.

Thought you said old git there for a second *mutters* must get new glasses

 

[OnTheBounce]

Got any tea and biscuits? Earl Grey if possible as I can't stand that Lipton rubbish!

Well, I'm sipping on some Earl Grey right now. Don't have any biscuits, though. Care for some buttered toast?

BTW, what is this "bread and butter" alternative to cake at tea time I heard about?

OTB

 

[requiem_for_a_starfury]

BTW, what is this "bread and butter" alternative to cake at tea time I heard about?

OTB

What you don't have bread and butter in America?

Usually have strawberry jam on it as well.

 

[Viktor]

Bread and butter instead of cake for tea? Must be some Northern thing...

Unless you mean bread and butter pudding - http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/poshnosh/recipes/breadbutter.shtml

A "round" of bread and butter (usually 2 slices of buttered white bread) is often served as a side order in the ever rarer British institution that is the "Transport Cafe" (think downmarket trucker's roadside diner...). Most offerings involve the full range of fried dietry staples such as sausage (40% meat/20% cereals/40% mystery), bacon, black pudding, mushrooms, tomatoes, eggs (don't ask for your fancy Colonial "over easy" crap unless you want a fight with the cook!) and baked beens. Tea and coffee comes in pint mugs and while the helpings are huge, tasty and cheap, the average cafe won't pass your Gran's white glove inspection and are hence known as "Greasy Spoons"...

 

[requiem_for_a_starfury]

Didn't you ever have a slice of bread, butter and jam with your afternoon tea Viktor? Must be from a well off family if you could afford to regularly have cake with your cuppa.

 

[Viktor]

Didn't you ever have a slice of bread, butter and jam with your afternoon tea Viktor? Must be from a well off family if you could afford to regularly have cake with your cuppa.

Scones, jam and plenty of clotted cream when we're feeling extravagant or just a few Rich Teas when times are hard in Bunker Albion.

 

[Odin]

Getting a bit off topic, so I'm splitting it..

 

[OnTheBounce]

Getting a bit off topic, so I'm splitting it..

Thanks Odin, now I can replay w/o fear of further derailing the pic thread.

Viktor: I should have been more specific. The link you provided is about a very recent thing. I heard about this recently when I was watching the '52 version of The Importance of Being Earnest. Since that play came out in the 1890s (right as Wilde was getting put on trial for deviance) I don't think that's it.

Basically, this looked like some sort of small confection. A small, elongated roll. The people that were eating it were fairly upper class, too. (If that's any help. )

OTB

 

[requiem_for_a_starfury]

Bread and Butter pudding has been around forever, on the second page of Viktor's link it says they took their inspiration

from the first recorded recipe for 'bred puddyng', included in Eliza Brampton's 'Boke Of Cokery' published in 1571.

But what you describe sounds more like some sort of individual, Jam Roly-Poly swiss roll or even an eclair.

I don't remember what they were eating in the film, but then again it wouldn't of registered as anything odd to me. Damn OTB you do obsess on the strangest of things.

Edit

Algernon. Oh! there is no use speculating on that subject. Divorces are made in Heaven - [Jack puts out his hand to take a sandwich. Algernon at once interferes.] Please don?t touch the cucumber sandwiches. They are ordered specially for Aunt Augusta. [Takes one and eats it.]

Jack. Well, you have been eating them all the time.

Algernon. That is quite a different matter. She is my aunt. [Takes plate from below.] Have some bread and butter. The bread and butter is for Gwendolen. Gwendolen is devoted to bread and butter.

Jack. [Advancing to table and helping himself.] And very good bread and butter it is too.

Okay this is the bit you're on about, it's just plain bread and butter OTB. The Aunt has cucumber sandwiches but Gwendolen only gets plain bread and butter, it might be fancifully cut and prepared but it was still only bread and butter.

 

[OnTheBounce]

I don't remember what they were eating in the film, but then again it wouldn't of registered as anything odd to me. Damn OTB you do obsess on the strangest of things.

Er...just ask Viktor about the "L" in British weapons nomenclature.

Okay this is the bit you're on about, it's just plain bread and butter OTB. The Aunt has cucumber sandwiches but Gwendolen only gets plain bread and butter, it might be fancifully cut and prepared but it was still only bread and butter.

Yes, that's the very part! (Plus it comes up again later when Gwendolyn is at Jack/Earnest's house and she wants bread and butter rather than cake.)

Just plain old bread and butter, eh? Er...yum. I guess.

Cheers!

OTB

 

[requiem_for_a_starfury]

I suppose it goes to the charactisation, plus don't forget that this was in the days before commerically available bread and a decade or so before electric refrigeration.

 

[OnTheBounce]

I suppose it goes to the charactisation...

I wonder if there's some double-entendre w/"bread and butter". I know that the play is a basically one huge in-joke about being gay at the time. For instance, the reference to a "button-hole" Algernon makes refers to a recognition sign used by homosexuals.

Of course, the great thing about the film/play is that you don't need to any of that to find it outrageously funny!

A handbag!

OTB

 

[requiem_for_a_starfury]

I wonder if there's some double-entendre w/"bread and butter". I know that the play is a basically one huge in-joke about being gay at the time. For instance, the reference to a "button-hole" Algernon makes refers to a recognition sign used by homosexuals.

Not that I'm aware of, but they had lots of euphemisms in those days, for obvious reasons.

Of course, the great thing about the film/play is that you don't need to any of that to find it outrageously funny!

A handbag!

OTB

My favourite line.

Jack. Gwendolen, it is a terrible thing for a man to find out suddenly that all his life he has been speaking nothing but the truth. Can you forgive me?

 

[OnTheBounce]

Not that I'm aware of, but they had lots of euphemisms in those days, for obvious reasons.

I should qualify that. I have that bit about the buttonhole on hear-say.

Yes, obvious reasons. Like Wilde's trial.

If I have a favorite line it's probably Algernon sayin, "...it's as true as any remark in civilized life should be."

Civility being the death of honesty and all that.

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[c0ldst33ltrs4u]

I don't know about you but I would settle right now for a strong cup/mug o' coffee and some of that bread and butter.
In my little corner of the world it is about 1 AM, I am half way plastered and I have an exam at 8 AM, so I'm guzzling coffee like a TBird guzzled gas. If anyone knows a quick fix-up feel free to share. K so good night everyone and sweet dreams!

 

[Viktor]

Getting a bit off topic, so I'm splitting it..

Culpa est mea!

Er...just ask Viktor about the "L" in British weapons nomenclature.

Now, that one did take a bit of digging to get to the bottom of... I wouldn't call OTB obsessive, "very enthusiastic with regards to obscure trivia" might be more fitting... I've got this trait in spades when it comes to military and weapons history!

But what you describe sounds more like some sort of individual, Jam Roly-Poly swiss roll or even an eclair

Mmmmm.... Can't beat a nice bit of train crash (jam roly-poly in British squaddie speak) for pudding!

 

[OnTheBounce]

Culpa est mea!

Viktor -- who was apparently an emperor of Rome in a past life -- seems to be presently suffering from an infatuation w/Latin. (This is not a bad thing, of course.)

...I wouldn't call OTB obsessive, "very enthusiastic with regards to obscure trivia" might be more fitting...

I have it on the authority of the psychologists' cabal that this is considered something of a vice in the current way of thinking. I'm expecting a troop of men in white to burst through my door any day now and tie me up -- "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long," thank you, Lemmy Kilmister -- and pump me full of sedatives until I'm a good, drooling, little sheep.

...I've got this trait in spades when it comes to military and weapons history!

"You too will meet the suede/denim secret police. They'll draft you and jail your niece!"

Mmmmm.... Can't beat a nice bit of train crash (jam roly-poly in British squaddie speak) for pudding!

You know, say what you will about the L1A1, and the fact that the British Army often has to borrow equipment from it's former colony: the British Army eats a hell of a lot better than its US counterpart does, that's for sure!

When I was in the Gulf the British were short of cots, which we had a surfeit of. The Brits, on the other hand, had these great packages (the 10-man-packs were the ones were were after). If you could find a cot no one would miss, you could get yourself three of these 10-man-packs, which was enough food for 30 days by yourself. Mmmm...

Unfortunately, one of my buddies got ripped of on a deal. He didn't know about the going rate, and some industious soldiers of Her Majesty managed to get him to cough up 3 cots for 1 ten-man-pack. We nearly cried when we found out what he'd done.

OTB

 

[Viktor]

Viktor -- who was apparently an emperor of Rome in a past life -- seems to be presently suffering from an infatuation w/Latin. (This is not a bad thing, of course.)

That comes from my reading Manfredi's "The Last Legion" which has plenty of Latin quotes and having a bit of a hankering to brush up on my Virgil and Horace... My Latin (ish) quote of the day is - "Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota
monax materiam possit materiari?"

I'm expecting a troop of men in white to burst through my door any day now and tie me up -- "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long," thank you, Lemmy Kilmister -- and pump me full of sedatives until I'm a good, drooling, little sheep.

I'm feeling like "Lost Johnny" myself these days......

"You too will meet the suede/denim secret police. They'll draft you and jail your niece!"

They'd better not, she's only 4!

Unfortunately, one of my buddies got ripped of on a deal. He didn't know about the going rate, and some industious soldiers of Her Majesty managed to get him to cough up 3 cots for 1 ten-man-pack. We nearly cried when we found out what he'd done.

OTB

They're not known as "The Borrowers" for nothing. Favourite items to acquire "by any means necessary" in Operation Telic or "Big Sandbox II" (Iraqi Freedom to you..) were desert boots (the British black ones melted..), Colt M16 mags (the issue RG ones have piss weak spring and the baseplates drop off..) and Oakley googles.