Sexist or not? The Naughty Witcher

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Ravager69

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Spotted on Gamebanshee:
http://community.feministing.com/2008/12/subtle-sexism-analyzing-the-wi.html

Writing this post will be difficult without making an asshole out of myself, but anyway:

I really don't know what the author tries to accomplish here and I find it very disturbing that someone, no matter the genre, tries to "analyze" a game, movie or a book and judge it "not political correct enough". I've seen some of female press articles and TV shows where men weren't treated with proper respect, but so what? People are entitled to their opinion. I understand women are often treated without proper respect, but aren't parents for changing that? Truth is, people learn about relationships from their parents and people around them, not from TV or games. I find this issue as important as "vide games violence making aggressive children" problem.

What's your take on this?
 
My take is you posted in the wrong forum

My other take is feminists could make a much better case for themselves if they weren't so damn-blasted stupid

That said, the Witcher is sexist. Not even subtly sexist, like the article states, but blatantly so. I think that's ok because it's setting-appropriate, but whatevz.
 
The game does objectify women into sex objects. There's no denying that, it's obvious. Though I don't think it should have been censored for that.
 
I think feminists need to learn what to care about and what not to give a shit about. I also doubt the qualifications of that woman to write that article because not only is she a woman, who therefore should not be on the internet or anywhere other than the kitchen, but because she has never played the game. I 'm sure she's right about everything she's said, but if you want to talk about something it helps to get as much info on the subject as possible, and that means playing the game.
 
Dragula said:
So like, why are you checking out feminist communities?
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Ravager69 said:
Spotted on Gamebanshee
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Though I understand you may talk about the few femalre press and tv shows. I have three sisters, so lots of this stuff lies around the house and they watch some female channell stuff (there's something called TVN Style here in Poland, which is a lair of feministic half-wits).
 
well, the people who play The Witcher are supposed to be old enough to already have a mature and healthy view on women.
 
I always thought women were made for making babies and cooking until I played The Witcher....then I realized you can pay them to have sex with you or seduce them . Video games teach so much.
 
Ravager69 said:
Though I understand you may talk about the few femalre press and tv shows. I have three sisters, so lots of this stuff lies around the house and they watch some female channell stuff (there's something called TVN Style here in Poland, which is a lair of feministic half-wits).
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Haha what is Europe coming to? We have similiarities here, a whole political party based in feminism.

The main issue with it, is that they want equality, they want to climb over men and be at the top by themselves.
 
In fighting against sexism towards women, a lot of women in turn become horribly sexist against men, it's quite sad really.

I guess The Witcher could reinforce some sexist quadrant of the brain subconsciously. I feel as though mature gamers don't need to have perfectly politically correct as long as they can handle it appropriately.

Edited out some random smileys...weird.
 
TheRatKing said:
In fighting against sexism towards women, a lot of women in turn become horribly sexist against men, it's quite sad really.

I guess The Witcher could reinforce some sexist quadrant of the brain subconsciously. I feel as though mature gamers don't need to have perfectly politically correct as long as they can handle it appropriately.

Edited out some random smileys...weird.
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Yeah it is kinda sad to watch women get lost in their equality obsession. IMO, the most active of feminist simply do not deserve the respect they want - there are women and there are women. There are girls that simply know their worth and don't need to rant on how men are disrespectful towards them. In such case, you feel it when you talk to them - if a women respects herself, she won't be bothered by a sexist joke or will simply freeze you with an ice-cold look (happened to me too many times).

BTW anyone ever seen an editorial solely about women faults, written by a man?
 
Ravager69 said:
TheRatKing said:
In fighting against sexism towards women, a lot of women in turn become horribly sexist against men, it's quite sad really.

I guess The Witcher could reinforce some sexist quadrant of the brain subconsciously. I feel as though mature gamers don't need to have perfectly politically correct as long as they can handle it appropriately.

Edited out some random smileys...weird.
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Yeah it is kinda sad to watch women get lost in their equality obsession. IMO, the most active of feminist simply do not deserve the respect they want - there are women and there are women. There are girls that simply know their worth and don't need to rant on how men are disrespectful towards them. In such case, you feel it when you talk to them - if a women respects herself, she won't be bothered by a sexist joke or will simply freeze you with an ice-cold look (happened to me too many times).

BTW anyone ever seen an editorial solely about women faults, written by a man?
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No. If you find one post it. Sounds interesting. Maybe I can use it against the wife or something.
 
Ravager69 said:
BTW anyone ever seen an editorial solely about women faults, written by a man?
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Dude, stop being sexist.

Just going to cross-post from GB:
Mostly, on a personal level, I always feel it's a shame how current PC ways should - in their mind - restrain accurate reflection of history or verisimilitude in the setting.

The Witcher is a sexist setting. It's what it always was and - considering the other themes the world has - it seems pretty appropriate.

On the other hand, imagine someone does a retro-50's game in which black people are referred to by several racial expletives and treated as second-rate citizens. It would be accurate, from a setting viewpoint, but it would be unacceptable to most - especially in the US.

In that sense, I always sympathize with these pieces. There's something crooked about it. For me, personally, I feel secure enough in my own lack of sexism and racism to have no problems with games that deal with the themes in a way that fits the gameworld, but at the same time, from society's viewpoint, casual sexism is surely easier than casual racism. And there's something unfair about that.
 
I think it makes no sense to look for sexism in virtual realities when there are plenty issues in the real world to deal with. Hardcore porn and the corrensponding industry for example, where women are objectified to no end and often treated as living sex dolls. It's probably as common amongst teenagers as gaming and actually has the potential to make the next generation think it depicts reality and act accordingly.
 
Brother None said:
My other take is feminists could make a much better case for themselves if they weren't so damn-blasted stupid
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They don't have a case to make for themselves, unless you count their irrational hatred towards all things male and heterosexual.

Iridium L said:
I think it makes no sense to look for sexism in virtual realities when there are plenty issues in the real world to deal with. Hardcore porn and the corrensponding industry for example, where women are objectified to no end and often treated as living sex dolls.
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What's your solution to that? Ban women from appearing in porn? That would be a violation of their rights, and if you go down that path you might as well ban them from wearing revealing clothing. It's their choice to do porn.

It's probably as common amongst teenagers as gaming and actually has the potential to make the next generation think it depicts reality and act accordingly.
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What next generation? Porn has been around for decades.
 
failout said:
Brother None said:
My other take is feminists could make a much better case for themselves if they weren't so damn-blasted stupid
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They don't have a case to make for themselves, unless you count their irrational hatred towards all things male and heterosexual.
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Women often earn less than a man for doing exactly the same job. Proven fact. In many countries, women were not allowed to vote until some point in the 20th century. Discrimination of women was daily routine for ages and still isn't extinct. So saying feminists don't have a case is just not true.
 
Buxbaum666 said:
Women often earn less than a man for doing exactly the same job. Proven fact. In many countries, women were not allowed to vote until some point in the 20th century. Discrimination of women was daily routine for ages and still isn't extinct. So saying feminists don't have a case is just not true.
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But what does discrimination in the workplace have to do with the witcher? Or fuck, video games period?

If you look hard enough, you'll find sexism/racism/classism in every facet of life. The fact that video games are even on their radar just proves that they don't have anything better to piss and moan about.

Do you see men angrily blogging about how they're displayed as barrel chested mouth breathing he-man clones in games?
 
Nothing, that wasn't my point. Just because feminism often goes too far doesn't mean they don't have a case at all. I guess I'm with BN here.

Brother None said:
My other take is feminists could make a much better case for themselves if they weren't so damn-blasted stupid
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