Star Citizen 150 mln is not enough

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The title says it all. The CIG UK basically went for a loan, if they do not pay a rate for 60 days, everything except the rights to star citizen will go to the bank.

150 million $ is not enough...

I will be surprised of this game doesn't flop like no man's sky or never gets finished.

Truth to be told, at this point I have lost like 95% of my entire hope and enthusiasm.
 
I am so fucking happy I did not spend cash on it.

I admire Robert, he made Freelancer (A game ruined by its players).

I think Star citizen would have been exactly the same, a game ruined by its players.

Seeing the forums, and seeing about 90% of players being 'pirates' (same shit in Freelancer), the game would have become a PVP mess, with experienced players spawncamping everywhere.
 
Some comments:

A) You "journalists" should learn how to read. A cursory examination of ALL 29 pages reveals that they are buying real estate and it is a loan. Office space? Mocap studio (given that Imaginarium is going belly up)? In any event, it isn't anything to worry about.

B)Yeah I mean they only had $150,000,000 and now they need loans,nothing to worry about at all,no siree.

A) Derek, you wouldn't understand how to be successful, so let me spell this out. They take the company as collateral to acquire a 0.25% loan (see: page 22) and take that money and put it in short term investment scheme yielding 3% and you MAKE MONEY. It's called leveraging.

C) CIG were in trouble they would not be able to secure a 0.25% interest rate. Just to put some numbers to that, thats £2,500 for a £1,000,000 loan. Collateral is normal, and so is saying "just take everything if I can't pay it", it helps secure the low interest rate. Calm down.

I really do not know at this point. Will this thing ever be completed?
 
Some comments:

A) You "journalists" should learn how to read. A cursory examination of ALL 29 pages reveals that they are buying real estate and it is a loan. Office space? Mocap studio (given that Imaginarium is going belly up)? In any event, it isn't anything to worry about.

B)Yeah I mean they only had $150,000,000 and now they need loans,nothing to worry about at all,no siree.

A) Derek, you wouldn't understand how to be successful, so let me spell this out. They take the company as collateral to acquire a 0.25% loan (see: page 22) and take that money and put it in short term investment scheme yielding 3% and you MAKE MONEY. It's called leveraging.

C) CIG were in trouble they would not be able to secure a 0.25% interest rate. Just to put some numbers to that, thats £2,500 for a £1,000,000 loan. Collateral is normal, and so is saying "just take everything if I can't pay it", it helps secure the low interest rate. Calm down.

I really do not know at this point. Will this thing ever be completed?

I hope, for the sake of others, that it gets released.

But I don't trust it for a second, seems too ambitious.

Should have made the singleplayer 'version', then made the giant multiplayer world slowly.
 
I hope, for the sake of others, that it gets released.

But I don't trust it for a second, seems too ambitious.

Should have made the singleplayer 'version', then made the giant multiplayer world slowly.

Honestly, they should have just made ships flyable and combat working. Then add things as they go along.

Too many goals to realize.
 
I've not paid anything for Star Citizen, nor do I have any particular desire for it to come out so I can play it. Why I do want it to come out is that I want there to be some sort of competition for Elite. I love Elite, but the development for it can best be described as "glacial." I want Star Citizen to come out so maybe Frontier will get their rears in gear and pick up the pace. It doesn't need to be incredibly fast, but the speed it's going at now tests even my patience.
 
Official Statement from Cloud Imperium Games about the alleged financial troubles...

Source: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/...e-uk-tax-rebate-advance-for-foundry-42/277779


Re: UK Tax Rebate Advance for Foundry 42

We have noticed the speculations created by a posting on the website of UK’s Company House with respect to Coutt’s security for our UK Tax Rebate advance, and we would like to provide you with the following insight to help prevent some of the misinformation we have seen.

Our UK companies are entitled to a Government Game tax credit rebate which we earn every month on the Squadron 42 development. These rebates are payable by the UK Government in the fall of the next following year when we file our tax returns. Foundry 42 and its parent company Cloud Imperium Games UK Ltd. have elected to partner with Coutts, a highly regarded, very selective, and specialized UK banking institution, to obtain a regular advance against this rebate, which will allow us to avoid converting unnecessarily other currencies into GBP. We obviously incur a significant part of our expenditures in GBP while our collections are mostly in USD and EUR. Given today's low interest rates versus the ongoing and uncertain currency fluctuations, this is simply a smart money management move, which we implemented upon recommendation of our financial advisors.

The collateral granted in connection with this discounting loan is absolutely standard and pertains to our UK operation only, which develops Squadron 42. As a careful review of the security will show and contrary to some irresponsible and misleading reports, the collateral specifically excludes “Star Citizen.” The UK Government rebate entitlement, which is audited and certified by our outside auditors on a quarterly basis, is the prime collateral. Per standard procedure in banking, our UK companies of course stand behind the loan and guarantee repayment which, however, given the reliability of the discounted asset (a UK Government payment) is a formality and nothing else. This security does not affect our UK companies’ ownership and control of their assets. Obviously, the UK Government will not default on its rebate obligations which will be used for repayment, and even then the UK companies have ample assets to repay the loan, even in such an eventuality which is of course unthinkable.

This should clarify the matter. Thank you.
 
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