The first Season of the Fallout tv show is out

It Just Works said:
At the very least it was contained on the East Coast.
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BoS, Enclave, Super Mutants, Vault Tec, Harold, GECK and many other things from the West Coast got mangled and ruined by Fallout 3. Fallout 3 didn't need to be set in the West Coast to ruin a lot of its things.
 
Norzan said:
BoS, Enclave, Super Mutants, Vault Tec, Harold, GECK and many other things from the West Coast got mangled and ruined by Fallout 3. Fallout 3 didn't need to be set in the West Coast to ruin a lot of its things.
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Fair enough, but what happened in California was at least unchanged by Fallout 3, besides the the Brotherhood expedition and the Enclave being resurrected.
 
Do what i and others and do and only consider 1, 2 and New Vegas canon. The bethesda bullshit are fever dreams as a result of Jet.
 
Norzan said:
Do what i and others and do and only consider 1, 2 and New Vegas canon. The bethesda bullshit are fever dreams as a result of Jet.
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Already doing that. I'd be lying if I said I'm not enjoying the show for what it is, but to me it's just a non-canon spin-off.
 
Alphons said:
And House decided to nuke Earth with Vault Tec, Frederick Sinclair from Big MT (yeah, not Sierra Madre), Repconn, West Tek and Super Duper Mart because potential peace treaty with China would be bad for business.
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Well, at least they retconned their own shitty "it was aliens" lore.
 
Alphons said:
And House decided to nuke Earth with Vault Tec, Frederick Sinclair from Big MT (yeah, not Sierra Madre), Repconn, West Tek and Super Duper Mart because potential peace treaty with China would be bad for business.
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If there’s one thing that’s good for business it’s global thermonuclear war.

Seriously though, are they saying that these companies actually started the war intentionally, or was it more a case of them sabotaging peace talks which then snowballed into an apocalypse? I could buy the second explanation, though it completely lets the American government off the hook which is lame.
 
Iprovidelittlepianos said:
Seriously though, are they saying that these companies actually started the war intentionally, or was it more a case of them sabotaging peace talks which then snowballed into an apocalypse? I could buy the second explanation, though it completely lets the American government off the hook which is lame.
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Vault Tec has a stockpile of nukes that they also use to nuke Shady Sands post-war.
 
Alphons said:
Vault Tec has a stockpile of nukes that they also use to nuke Shady Sands post-war.
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Sounds like it's because Bethesda doesn't know what to do with a rebuilding wasteland and needs to keep it stagnant



 
Bethesda didn't want to continue the rebuilding after Fallout 2 because they never understood Fallout. They and other people that barely knew about the franchise beyond a very surface level thought that the franchise was about humanity being in perpetual shit and never advancing beyond that, when the franchise was about how humanity would recover from a nuclear apocalypse and how it would look after that.
 
Haven't fully watched the show yet, but from what I've seen from being spoiled, apparently Shady Sands is nuked by Vault-Tec in 2277 (a full 5 years before the events of New Vegas) and the NCR as a state collapses. What is left is the "leader" of the NCR ruling a bunch of bandits, wanting to apprehend Vault-Tec for the NCR's destruction, hence why they kidnapped the MC's Dad in episode 1. We also see New Vegas as a nuked ruin in the final episode.

I'll need to fully watch the series to fully confirm any of this, but its pretty dire to be honest.

If any of this is correct, all I'm getting is a continued confirmation that Bethesda has no idea how to continue the rebuilding of Fallout 2, and continues to believe that humanity post-apocalypse will continue to live in rabble in shanty towns for the rest of existence.

It's sad, I'd have never actually found out about Fallout without Bethesda (I was introduced to the series at Fallout 4), but the more I realise, this franchise should've just died after the second game.
 
First of all, Shady Sands might have been in the middle of nowhere in the first game, but in the second it's the heart of the NCR. I swear it's like people don't understand the idea of storyline and world progression. Fallout and Fallout 2 are not stand alone stories, the events from the first game precede the events from the second. This does not bode well for storylines in any medium at this point, as Bethesda is setting a precedent that it's literally anything goes.
 
donperkan said:
https://www.pcgamer.com/movies-tv/i...ut-show-to-retcon-non-bethesda-fallout-games/

Nothing was debunked in this click bait but its ok cos marvel did it before
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Wow, yesterday I was laughing about the drawing of nuke being next to the arrow and not a date being used as defense, but it looks everyone's using that now.

It doesn't even have to be a concious retcon (maybe some prop guy fucked up or writers didn't care enough), why jump through all these hoops that Shady Sands started falling in 2277 and then was nuked years after NV?
 
At this point, I don't get why anyone cares this much.
It's not like Bethesda were gonna do anything with Vegas anyway, you may as well just do what I do, separate the two works.
Honestly, I think you guys are overestimating how much control Todd actually had over the script. I like dunking on Todd as much as the next guy but I feel this time around, he is playing with People who have more power than him.

As most, he seemed like a veto and ideas guys. Maybe nuking Shady Sands was his idea, maybe it wasn't, it really doesn't matter at this point because it would have had to go through so many stages by the end product that many others could have simply has said no.

I mean either you like the show, of which I thought episode one was decent, or you don't and you never have to watch it again. I mean, we can safely say that Fallout isn't Fallout anymore, wanting it to be is just gonna hurt you guys more.

It is very funny to read your posts so keeping going.
 
Maybe Critical Drinker will review it. I'd enjoy 10 minutes of him bashing it.

I can't get past the
Vault-Tec nuked the world
which might be the dumbest plot twist I've ever heard of. That's inexcusable.

Shogun is a good show, it shows people can respect the source material, even today. But it's awfully rare.
 
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