The first Season of the Fallout tv show is out

PaxVenire said:
Tim finally gave his opinions on the Fallout show overall.
TL;DW: He liked the show a lot and doesn’t care about lore changes.
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I feel like I'm being gaslit any time someone complements it. I like Tim, and I respect him for what he's created but I wonder how he'd feel if he owned the franchise while it was simultaneously being deconstructed. One could say he wouldn't allow that, but Robert Kirkman's the perfect example of the creator still owning the rights to their creation but is unable to do anything to stop it's ruination.
 
FalloutIsMyDrug said:
You all act like the original games were graphical eye-candy.
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They looked far better back then than Fallout 3 and look even better now that Fallout 3 has aged even worse. Fallout 1 and 2 also have style and personality in its graphics and animations, something Fallout 3 completely lacks.

Fallout 3 isn't butt ugly because of the green tint, it's butt ugly because of the horrendous textures, the awful animations, and just overall really badly put together models. Metroid Prime 1 looks better and that game came out in 2002 for the Gamecube.

And it's not like Fallout 3 had anything to make up for its poor graphics because the combat, rpg elements, the exploration, the writing, the world building, the story and most of the quests suck too.
 
Ι've been replaying Fallout: New Vegas and this dialogue with Caesar feels particularly relevant, considering that Fallout Amazon (and the franchise in general) is essentially BoS porn by now.



"The BoS is a dead end, it's been 200 years and they still behave like scavengers".

Meanwhile, this tv show: "POWER ARMOR! VERTIBIRDS! PALADINS! I'M GONNA COOOOOME!"
 
Iprovidelittlepianos said:
Sometimes I wonder if people like Tim actually like the show or if they just have a visceral reaction against “toxic right-wing haters” and don’t want to be lumped in with them.
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I genuinely think Tim Cain just doesn’t care for lore of a series he personally left behind after Fallout 1. I think he likes seeing how popular and beloved his creation became, but even by Fallout 2 his ideas were being thrown to the wayside and he up and left Black Isle. Basically he’s in our seat right now when it comes to Fallout, where we all don’t know what comes next except he isn’t as invested. Even with Fallout 2 and New Vegas he talks about how it isn’t what he would have done and how he has been sitting on an idea for his Fallout 2 for a rainy day.
 
Traeger91 said:
Robert Kirkman's the perfect example of the creator still owning the rights to their creation but is unable to do anything to stop it's ruination.
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He didn't and still doesn't own the TV rights tho. He wants to get an animated remake of TWD so he can do a faithful adaptation of it but AMC won't let him
 
Traeger91 said:
I feel like I'm being gaslit any time someone complements it.
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I liked some stuff from the show, picks here and there but yeah I’m shocked at the overwhelming praise.

R.Graves said:
He wants to get an animated remake of TWD so he can do a faithful adaptation of it but AMC won't let him
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That’s sad to hear, I’ve been wanting this for a long time. Not too particularly invested in Invincible but The Walking Dead was the first ongoing comic series I followed to the end and love it. Much better than the slopfest the TV series became.
 
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PaxVenire said:
That’s sad to hear, I’ve been wanting this for a long time. Not too particularly invested in Invincible but The Walking Dead was the first ongoing comic series I followed to the end and love it. Much better than the slopfest the TV series became
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I felt the comic lost all sense of direction after all out war and then just ended abruptly after an arc and a half
 
R.Graves said:
He didn't and still doesn't own the TV rights tho. He wants to get an animated remake of TWD so he can do a faithful adaptation of it but AMC won't let him
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I was just using it as an example of someone that didn't like the misrepresentation of something that they created.
 
PaxVenire said:
Tim finally gave his opinions on the Fallout show overall.
TL;DW: He liked the show a lot and doesn’t care about lore changes.
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I bet he's hiding how he actually feels about it, you know him being professional, humble, & "keeping the peace" so to speak. ;-)


I also wonder how he actually feels of him or any of the other OG creators not being credited at all on the show? I mean if I were in their shoes, I'd be ticked about that!

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R.Graves said:
I felt the comic lost all sense of direction after all out war and then just ended abruptly after an arc and a half
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I agree the ending was too abrupt. I wonder if Robert Kirkman got burned out writing it since the show was way more popular and his comics weren’t selling as well anymore.
 
Homer2137 said:
I feel like Tim Cain doesn't care about Fallout at all,
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Ummm. Have you not seen what’s on his shelves in the background? Clearly that’s not the case. He has a channel where he talks about Fallout all the time, has engaged in Fallout talk the entire way through the series’ releases, and has even taken the time to watch and talk about the new show aside from the two he saw when he was invited to the screening. He might not care about the lore but doesn’t mean he doesn’t care at all, that’s a silly assumption.
 
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I'll say it's pretty funny and sad at the same time the fact that i saw people unironically saying "if the creator of Fallout liked it, why shouldn't everyone else?", which is such a dumb thing to do.

Just because the creator of the franchise liked something in that same franchise that came out like 26 years later after the only thing they worked in that same damn franchise doesn't mean you have to like it too just because they do.
 
Norzan said:
I'll say it's pretty funny and sad at the same time the fact that i saw people unironically saying "if the creator of Fallout liked it, why shouldn't everyone else?", which is such a dumb thing to do.

Just because the creator of the franchise liked something in that same franchise that came out like 26 years later after the only thing they worked in that same damn franchise doesn't mean you have to like it too just because they do.
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They don’t even care to listen to anything else he has to say, they just use the fact that he likes something as some kinda “gotcha” for people with any form of criticism.
 
Read this on Tim's latest video: "It happened a long time ago and therefore people could be lying or simply be wrong" is a very good excuse for inconsistency in a franchise lol.

Except in Fallout's case, we see these things happen, because we've played through them. It's like how Marcus states: "Your people are going to tell a different story, right?" except we know as the player how the events of the first game play out.
 
Traeger91 said:
Read this on Tim's latest video: "It happened a long time ago and therefore people could be lying or simply be wrong" is a very good excuse for inconsistency in a franchise lol.
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Does he think wikis and other places that store every single minute detail about a franchise don't exist? Because they do.
 
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