Has anyone heard of this I heard that it influenced wasteland and fallout. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0898367/ looks good. discuss.
The Road the movie.
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LogisticEarth
First time out of the vault
Do you mean the movie was influenced by the games? Or the games were influenced by the movie/book? If the later, you're way off, as McCarthy's novel wasn't published untill 2006.
I've heard it's really good though. I need to read the book before I see the film.
I've heard it's really good though. I need to read the book before I see the film.
sickfuck_diablo
It Wandered In From the Wastes
The book was great, but definitely one of the most depressing things I've ever read
euhm.sickfuck_diablo said:
why? it has a hollywood happy ending for fucks sake.
didn't find it depressing at all.
welsh
Junkmaster
The Road inspired Fallout 3? Sounds like someone one is spoon feeding bullshit to sell their game and suggest artistic merit behind their rather shoddy work.
Totally didn't influence either Fallout 1 or Fallout 2.
Did Fallout inspire the Road? I doubt McCarthy is Fallout fan or even played the game.
I know those assholes at Bethesda are saying that the Road is an influence to the game, but those assholes would sell that bullshit to anyone willing to believe it. SO far I have seen no references to the Road in Fallout 3, except that both are generally post-apocalyptic.
Suaside- in a sense its less a holiday ending than a gnostic theme that McCarthy regularly references. The reference can be seen in No Country for Old Men and in Blood Meridian, and I think perhaps even in the Borderlands trilogy. I agree that it looks like a Hollywood ending (at least in the book) but the book's reference is to a more spiritual ideal. Blood Meridian is perhaps a better source for what he's really getting at.
Totally didn't influence either Fallout 1 or Fallout 2.
Did Fallout inspire the Road? I doubt McCarthy is Fallout fan or even played the game.
I know those assholes at Bethesda are saying that the Road is an influence to the game, but those assholes would sell that bullshit to anyone willing to believe it. SO far I have seen no references to the Road in Fallout 3, except that both are generally post-apocalyptic.
Suaside- in a sense its less a holiday ending than a gnostic theme that McCarthy regularly references. The reference can be seen in No Country for Old Men and in Blood Meridian, and I think perhaps even in the Borderlands trilogy. I agree that it looks like a Hollywood ending (at least in the book) but the book's reference is to a more spiritual ideal. Blood Meridian is perhaps a better source for what he's really getting at.
Cimmerian Nights
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
I'll tell you what I think influenced The Road that nobody ever talks about.
Father and young son, travelling down the highway in a violent, hellish wasteland. Struggling against the dark side of human nature. Death everywhere.
In a fucking shopping cart?
Lone Wolf and Cub much?
What's his next book going to be about, a blind masseuse with a cane sword?
Hack.
Father and young son, travelling down the highway in a violent, hellish wasteland. Struggling against the dark side of human nature. Death everywhere.
In a fucking shopping cart?
Lone Wolf and Cub much?
What's his next book going to be about, a blind masseuse with a cane sword?
Hack.
Mutoes
Mildly Dipped
Theres Lone wolf and cub movies? I loved the manga.
Good films?
Good films?
S
Stag
Guest
I saw the english dub, Shogun Executioner, and I couldn't take it for more than ten minutes. The voice over is just...it's too fucking much, it's fucking horrendous.
Cimmerian Nights
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
That one is a cheap mash-up of the movies, which there are 6 of. They are pretty good, albeit low budget. But lifted right from the books.
I'd stay away from any Japanese movie that's dubbed though, only trash gets dubbed. You don't see Mifune getting dubbed over do you? Defeats the purpose
I'd stay away from any Japanese movie that's dubbed though, only trash gets dubbed. You don't see Mifune getting dubbed over do you? Defeats the purpose
sickfuck_diablo
It Wandered In From the Wastes
I wasn't thinking about the ending as much as the overall vision of society. And the fact the kid is born into that kind of life, well depressing might be too strong a word but I had a memorable emotional response to it.
LogisticEarth
First time out of the vault
Eyenixon said:
Huh? The only other recent movie was No Country for Old Men. I don't know if that classifies as a "formula" yet. The Road had some massively positive critical reaction when it first was published and they were quickly talking about a movie, even before No Country was released.
LogisticEarth said:
All The Pretty Horses had been adapted, No Country For Old Men as you mentioned, Blood Meridian is being adapted, and the film mentioned in this title is being made.
That's enough for me, I wouldn't be surprised if they began taking his older works and producing films out of those.
Cimmerian Nights
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Yeah, the book, how many Pulitzer Prize Winners have made good Hollywood movies?LogisticEarth said:
Does anyone possibly think they can cram the essence of a Pulitzer Prize winner into a 90minute mainstream movie? Why bother?
A 90 minute Hollywood movie is quite simply the wrong medium for presenting things like that. The only PP winners that got their due recently were Killer Angels (aka Gettysburg) and Lonesome Dove - but they're like 8 hours long. Return on investment not high enough to bother, dumb it down, whore it out, cash it in.
iridium_ionizer
Mildly Dipped
I found it bleak (as would be expected given the circumstances), but there also some small happy moments that were tucked into the story.sickfuck_diablo said:
I don't think Bethesda had The Road influence Fallout 3 in any good way, but there are several changes to the Fallout universe that they made to make it more like The Road: Cannibalistic supermutants, shopping carts, abundance of stuff to loot (even though the bombs dropped 200 years prior), places full of dead people, and the art style changing from more stylistic husks of buildings to more realistic burned houses, telephone poles, etc.welsh said:
The Road?
I never bothered to finish that tripe. The writing style wasn't exactly helpful -- ignoring literary conventions (italics for thought, quotations for speech, etc) isn't artistic, it's just confusing.
And the story wasn't exactly the best thing since sliced bread either.
I guess I just don't "do" intellectual masterpieces.
I never bothered to finish that tripe. The writing style wasn't exactly helpful -- ignoring literary conventions (italics for thought, quotations for speech, etc) isn't artistic, it's just confusing.
And the story wasn't exactly the best thing since sliced bread either.
I guess I just don't "do" intellectual masterpieces.
Cimmerian Nights
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Actually, The Godfather 1 and 2 movies both come from the same single book. So it took, what, 2 movies and a total of 6 hours to do the book justice. Imagine it as a 90 minute feechuur film, blech. Besides, as good as the Godfather is, it ain't Pulitzer material. It wasn't on Oprah's book list neither.M-26-7 said:
M-26-7 said:
The Godfather is definitely not an incredible book, or at the least it cannot be considered a serious entrant into the realm of literary fiction, the book is excessive in its subject matter to the point of absurdity (I don't want to hear about Sonny's over sized schlong anymore) and it's very dryly written, I'd go so far as to say that the only reason the book is acknowledged at all is because the film itself exists.
One of those truly rare cases where the film is far improved over its original form, The Godfather as a book is a trite crime drama read at the airport when there's nothing better to read.
Ashmo said:
While normally I wouldn't agree (just take a look at the butt-head in my avatar), I certainly believe you have a point with The Road, I by no means consider it a "bad book", but I was not impressed on the same level as many others who have provided profuse examples of appreciative behavior in regards to the book.
My initial feelings of annoyance were inspired by McCarthy's excessive usage of the word "gray". It was severely grating, especially since he made no figurative or eloquent use of the repetition of the word, rather he decided to repeat it until it drove home the point that everything is somewhat, to a certain degree, with slight inference, in fact, gray.
He does not accomplish anything that could be called interesting with his prose, he just seemed to be bored with conventional writing, while there's nothing wrong with that (who doesn't get tired of the typical syntax and rules), he could've done it in a far more pleasing manner. Since there is, as you mentioned, no real artistic merit to his prose in The Road, it just serves to be irksome and at worst, even pretentious.
I was not confused by his writing style however, merely annoyed, the plot and characters were interesting enough to keep me engaged.
welsh
Junkmaster
Cimmerian Nights said:I'll tell you what I think influenced The Road that nobody ever talks about.
Father and young son, travelling down the highway in a violent, hellish wasteland. Struggling against the dark side of human nature. Death everywhere.
In a fucking shopping cart?
Lone Wolf and Cub much?
What's his next book going to be about, a blind masseuse with a cane sword?
Hack.
Dude- that's so bizarre. What an image! I wonder if anyone else has pointed this comparison.
As for the book as good fiction- honestly, I think McCarthy's best is Blood Meridian, which was under appreciated when it was first done. I think he got accolades for the Road largely because the critics totally missed the boat on Blood Meridian.
Though I got to say, No Country for Old Men was pretty good.