Tip : pass Preoria without tribal death

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in preoria, is there a way to save the tribals?

Is there a way (while still turning off the turrets that guard the 'roachor' battery) to save the tribals? i really dont care, but it'd be interesting for my next game

-Silencer
 
RE: in preoria, is there a way to save the tribals?

Saving the tribals is a good thing, since you get an extra Fusion Battery and General Barnaky will give you a nice debrief.

But becareful, the only way i've found to save them is to kill the turrets once theyre online. Alot of cattle prods on Overload does the trick nicely, but you will need ALOT of Small Energy Cells. Grenades would work nicely too, i would imagine.
 
Preoria help ... how to prevent the killing ?

i saw a post that talked about killing the turrets.. and someone mentionned that you could prevent the turrets on the surface from coming out .. and then get another battery from a villager ? please help i cant figure it out i have to pull the switch to get pass trought the security door.. i cant open them otherwise ...and what are the code yellow key for ??
 
RE: Preoria help ... how to prevent the killing ?

You need to leave someone at the door switch and time your other guys running through as fast as possible. Close the door after them. Do the same thing coming back. If you do it right, no one will die. Set up hot keys, it helps to switch from the door guy to your running squad really fast.
 
RE: Preoria help ... how to prevent the killing ?

Also helps to leave one squaddie by each of the turrets up top to take hits instead of the villiagers. You have 10 seconds every time you hit the switch untill the turrets pop up...
 
RE: in preoria, is there a way to save the tribals?

There is a far more easy way:
YOU CAN STEAL FROM NON-ACTIVATED TURRETS

just steal all their batteries, and no spare ammo --> they'll just shoot one burst and remain calm, waiting for you to kill them. (very easy XP)
 
RE: Preoria help ... how to prevent the killing ?

once again, steal all the batteries from the turrets BEFORE they become active, no ammo = no shooting.
 
RE: in preoria, is there a way to save the tribals?

[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Apr-21-01 AT 00:27AM (GMT)[p]I know this may sound odd, But can you target them when they are offline? if so you can just destroy them while they are deactivated then Loot the "Corpses" (After all you can kill sleeping raiders)

(the reason why i ask is that i destroyed the Deactivated Bots in the glow and looted them)
 
RE: Preoria help ... how to prevent the killing ?

>once again, steal all the batteries
>from the turrets BEFORE they
>become active, no ammo =
>no shooting.


Just a sugestion,

Save the game, then see if you can target them and destroy them while they are Deactivated, just like you do to the robots "TheGlow"from Fallout 1.
 
RE: in preoria, is there a way to save the tribals?

Ok, my brother found out a way to do it fairly simply, but it'll take a long time. I'm posting it just for the general knowledge of the forum and to help out people. Also, I found out you get at least one promotion from Barnaky if you save the tribesmen, if not two, so it is very worth it (too bad it's too late for me).

Here goes:

Either run by or disable the first two turrets (the first two encountered in the depot place, not the ones on the surface)
and get to the switch that switches defenses from internal to external. Get your whole team there. have your weakest member (or the most useless member) stay crouched right near the switch. Have him/her switch it, and have the rest of your party rush into the next room, and quickly have the person by the switch switch it back.

Basically what this does is lets your party get in the room with the single turret, while keeping all the tribals alive (it takes ten seconds for the surface sterilization to commense).

Next, have your main party sneak by or destroy the turret. Then, have the member by the switch open the doors to the next room, have your party rush in, and have him/her switch it back off. Destroy or sneak by the turrets, etc...and you're pretty much home free (if you destroyed them). Kill roachor, get the battery and come back. If you didnt destroy the turrets, sneak by again the same way you came.

It takes a long time, but its worth it. There ya go...

-Silencer
 
RE: in preoria, is there a way to save the tribals?

Aww you're evil, Silencer, for not caring about the ever-so-peaceful Wachutu people... the first time I played I felt like a mutant pig rat for killing off half their tribe... I'm glad I restarted :-) There's already a brief description of this strategy below, I'll just get into a couple of details on how exactly I pulled it off.

For the first two turrets, I placed myself and farsight into aggressive mode, and set the default target of their Kalashnikovs to "Eyes". Then I ran them up to a point where they had a 91-95% chance to hit the sensors (lying down) of the turret (and where they had cover from the other turret so they couldn't both fire at me simultaneously). Then I turned on CTB mode and sat back to read a comic book. Sure, you'll waste hundreds of 7.62 ammo if you intend to kill all of the turrets, but this is a very reliable and easy way to kill the turrets. I got fairsight killed a couple of times (this strategy is a big no-no for tough guys :-)), but usually it's enough to use a few stimpacks if the turrets actually hits ya. The trick is that you gotta have high PE and skills so that you can fire from far away, making it very hard for the turret to hit ya. If you don't aim for the sensors, you'll never get them destroyed... But if you do, you'll get quite a few criticals in. Even though I never got a good enough critical to blind the bastard, I often pulled off 24-damage hits, which was enough. After this it was even easier to kill the second turret. Since there isn't a second turret to back up the next one, this strategy works for destroying it also. After this, there are two ways of continuing. 1) Killing every single turret out there. 2) Following the strategy mentioned above. From the room with the switch, I used my tactic again to destroy the loner turret. This time it was a tad harder, because I couldn't lie down since I had to destroy it shooting through the windows, but it still worked. After that, I had one teammate hold position at the switch and use it. The rest of team rushed through the first room into the "restricted area"-room, and ducked behind the barrels. As soon as they were safe, I closed the doors again. I took a breather and then switched the lever again, rushing past the two active turrets into the lower room and once again hiding behind the crates so that the only active turret there couldn't shoot me (thank god the other turret was already destroyed!). On my way back I repeated the steps in reversed order up until the point my team was reunited. You will get 150 more XP points for talking to the chief, who will also give you the extra fusion battery (boy is barnaky happy then). It's worth the trouble to see the Wachutu chief laugh at you without knowing that the joke's on him - damn idiots haven't heard of RadAway (or Rad-X for that matter), eh... Wonder how many villagers he lost for learning that. :-)

- saboteur
... saboteur@softhome.net
... http://saboteurmusic.cjb.net
 
RE: in preoria, is there a way to save the tribals?

On destroying the turrents, I've found one way is to equip everybody with diamond spears (consistent 6-9 pts damage) and just surround the things and use CTB melee combat. Seems like they can't shoot for sh*t when the target is right in their mechanical faces. Most times I only get hit once for each turret i destroy. I wait till they pop down then rush and surround them, then poke them until they die ;)

If you kill 'em all, thats 4000+ MECs for the taking :D

Red
 
RE: in preoria, is there a way to save the tribals?

Why would you want to destroy the turrets when there's a much easyer way.

Just take another member of your team to the basement, the ground turrets won't go active until the switch has been "on" for 10sec, so as you advance with the other, turn on and off the switch with the other.
 
RE: in preoria, is there a way to save the tribals?

[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Apr-25-01 AT 05:53PM (GMT)[p]Er... I'm in the process of playing this mission again (I didn't like my old main character, and thus started over. lol) and this time I tagged Steal. Well, I just trot up to the turrets, steal their batteries...and then get turned into a nice puddle of goo?

Despite having no ammo, the turrets are still firing at me. Not happy. Perhaps it's just a bug that remains in my game...or maybe I'm just an idiot. lol. x_X

(The turrets were deactivated when I stole their batteries...I don't know if this has any bearing on things.)
 
RE: in preoria, is there a way to save the tribals?

The turrets in the basement should each have about 650 micro fusion cells. Did you steal all of them? (They're a b*tch to carry around, mind you)

Well, for one thing, (which I think is the problem for you) the turrets will have a full amount of ammunition loaded into their cannons. They will fire at you as long as they have some ammo left in the cannons. (You can't steal the ammo from inside an enemies' minigun either :-))

It's possible to finish the mission by running past ALL the turrets, but I highly recommend destroying at least 3 of them (The one in the hallway, the one in the first sealed room and maybe one of the first two turrets) to make the mission easier.

- saboteur
... saboteur@softhome.net
... http://saboteurmusic.cjb.net
 
RE: in preoria, is there a way to save the tribals?

Ok folks, how much Steal skill do you need to steal the batteries from the turrets?
What are the xp rewards for killing them?

And I can't seem to hit them when they are retracted!

On a happier note, I have a sneaky way I got around them. Like other people, I just ran by all the turrets and used the flip-flop switch mode. What no one has mentioned is that you can hit enter in turn-mode to enter combat while the turrets are retracted and run past them without a single shot fired! Sure it takes a few turns to run past them, but they never pop back up while you're in combat mode in turn-based. So the question is, how are people killing the turrets when they are down and how can you steal from them? I keep getting "caught."
 
RE: in preoria, is there a way to save the tribals?

It's impossible to hit the turrets while they are deactivated. The xp rewards for killing them are totally worthless (something like 40 pnts or so). And stealing from them is very difficult, will require close to 100% skill, I think. I always got caught myself, so I just killed some of them. Nobody said anything about killing them while they're down? I just sniped them at sufficient range so they always missed me. :-) (As described in detail in this thread)

Good trick that TB-runby. Didn't think of that one. Like stated above, it's also fairly easy to run past them in CTB - they rarely hit a moving target (unless you have to run close by).

- saboteur
... saboteur@softhome.net
... http://saboteurmusic.cjb.net
 
-Buy 6 diamond spears from QM before entering the mission
-melee all the way through (that's what I did)

but here's some more details

from previous posts from a lot of other people and myself, it is confirmed that the turrets have a very low chance of hitting you when you go melee with them, it's less than 5% for sure (so don't be surprised if it did score a hit on you)

Now about the part where you flip the 3rd switch and turrets on the surface go up, what I did was
-1 guy wait by the switch, rest of the team cover the 3 turrets
-flip the switch and watch the sticks penetrate the turrets

what you could also do is have your team, at least one character per turret, stand really close to it so that it will aim for you (not that it usually hits), then have your thief steal all their batteries, all 3 turrets on top have around 60-70 fusion cells in addition to what's already loaded, so if you steal those backup ammo, they'll run out soon, rendering them useless.

One last thing, when you're about to do the surface turret, remember to switch difficulty to easy for the duration, surface turret in normal difficulty seem to be hitting at 20-25% accuracy, which probably means it'll kill a few people including your team mates before it goes down.

With that much said, go kill those turrets !
 
RE: in preoria, is there a way to save the tribals?

yeah the turrents can't handle drugs ;)
I know kinda cheap move but 3 or 4 hits with drugs and poof they dead
 
RE: in preoria, is there a way to save the tribals?

The turrets outside have 60 Fusion cells, 50 of hwich you can steal, but either way, just overdrug them! ^_^. 4 combination afterburner/buffout takes out one, and I managed to take out all 3 of them with a combo of drugs from the raiders, dead bodies in Preoria, and whatever's inside that vault. It works, I did it :*).

And turrets take way too long to kill IMO.

Question: How do you set your people to aim for specific parts in CTB? I can turn on the aim function, but how do you set which body part to hit?
 
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