UK ID CA RDS

Yeah, in Poland we have similar ones.

I don't like the things either, they're supposed to speed up the procedure everytime a the cops search you on the street and check your data.

The worst thing is that it's completely legal, and they can stop you whenever they want.

That's why most people feel like throwing a stone to their forehead everytime they see those fuckwits in fluo coats.
 
megatron said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2078604.stm

Trials of identity cards are to be launched next
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I don't like the idea mebbe? I think I'll run off and join the circus instead of having the star of davide carved into my forehead.

Do any of you other wacky foreign countries carry bizarro cards?

Thoughts? Discuss? Ignore?
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Can't say it bothers me, much. Might bother those sorts who panic about conspiracy theories and such, but as far as I'm concerned it'll come in handy as proof of ID when it comes to form-filling and the like (of which I seem to be doing an awful load, of late).
 
I'm used to carrying my drivers license around all the time for ID, but I think I'd be a little worried if the government declared that I have to carry it with me at all times. I'd take it as a sign that things were going a little over the edge if I needed to be able to prove my identity immediately at any time or place.

How do you prove your identity now in the UK, if you need to?
 
Montez said:
How do you prove your identity now in the UK, if you need to?
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I believe you need something with your face on it. Photographic ID, in other words. Driver's License, or any license, is ideal; passport; that sort of jazz.

In fact, I'm working towards getting my driver's license these next few months, hence my repeated daliances with authority. Luckily, in the UK, said licenses come in smart, laminated card format that fit snug as a bug in your wallet. So I'll be using that from then on... *fingers crossed I pass!*
 
Montez said:
I'm used to carrying my drivers license around all the time for ID, but I think I'd be a little worried if the government declared that I have to carry it with me at all times. I'd take it as a sign that things were going a little over the edge if I needed to be able to prove my identity immediately at any time or place.
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Aye, that disturbs me something too. We Dutch have always used our European or international passport or driver's license as ID cards, since both are officially registered, but we don't *have* to carry them around everywhere. Though there are places where they're compulsory (train stations, I think, and a handful of others)

To call compulsory ID cards an infringement on someone's basic rights goes too far, though. On the other hand, searches like they do in Belgium, where they just stop people and ask for a card is going too far.
 
U.S.A.:Driving licences are so widely used they are almost an unofficial form of photo ID
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I would go so far as to say they have become an 'official' form of I.D.

I think it's not so much actually having to carry the card that's causing the debate, so much as the right of government officials to demand to see them at any time. Which has become a pretty big debate here in Tucson lately. The police department has no 'right' to 'demand' to see I.D. unless they believe a crime has been committed (no matter how small). However the debate is about them 'requesting' to see them. Which, if you have done nothing wrong, you can deny them access to. The problem is, if you don't comply with a 'request', it gives them full authority to demand to see it. Which, if you continue to not cooperate, actually can be a crime.

It's been like this for as long as I can remember, but for some reason, it's become a big topic.

Personally, I don't care what the government wants me to carry as Identification. So long as it's only a card/paper, if they want to carry a G.P.S. chip in my hand, or forehead, then there will be a problem.
 
I think the thing that freaks most people out is the idea that the government can track their movements--too many movies maybe?
Also, Dove is right--the fact that refusing to produce id or allow a search gives the police reasonable cause is outrageous.
 
Well, the US is requiring GPS put in all cell phones (by the end of this year?). That's about as bad as having one implanted. I don't go anywhere without my cell phone. This just makes me not want to buy a new one. Supposedly it's for emergency situations like when someone is in a car accident, or calls in a crime. I'm a paranoid freak, so I just assume they're gonna follow my every move. AHH!
 
Yes Ryno... the government wants to track your movements from your room to the liquor store and back!
 
Jebus said:
They do?
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If it never happened to you, you're probably white and reasonably rich. Black? They stop you and ask for your ID Card. Turkish? Same. Poor white kid? Same.
 
Kharn said:
Jebus said:
They do?
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If it never happened to you, you're probably white and reasonably rich. Black? They stop you and ask for your ID Card. Turkish? Same. Poor white kid? Same.
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Well, I do have my fair share of colored and 'poor' (or at least poor-looking) friends, and I've never witnessed nor heard them talking about it...

My guess is that, if you have indeed witnessed or experienced it, it was mainly because of your Dutch accent.

'Cause we al know them Dutchies are up to no good...

Especially them darn Dutch wigga's...
 
I quite like the idea actually.
At the moment the only ID that's universally aceptable is A) Driving Lisence, B) Passport.
Since I have neither, (and don't plan on getting them anytime soon) it's rather annoying not to have any legal form of ID.
I don't think the whole "police search" thing will be a major problem though (Unless you are Asian/Middle Eastern, some Brits seem to have picked up America's recent distrust of anyone who looks like an Arab).
 
Perhaps it is because you are British, but how can you not have a passport? I really can't see living without one (had one myself for longer than I could speak) , it's a very important form of identification, and something that could be needed at a moments notice (taking into account emergencies and so forth). A driver's lisence is more understandable, even if nearly every American over 16 has one.

Besides, at least it isn't nearly as bad as countries like Mexico. The rich there all sequester themselves in fortified houses (I'm not exaggerating, razor wire, armed guards, 12-foot high walls) where you need several forms of identification even to access housing complexes manned by private security guards. Didn't help Trotsky though.
 
Kotario said:
Perhaps it is because you are British, but how can you not have a passport? I really can't see living without one (had one myself for longer than I could speak) , it's a very important form of identification, and something that could be needed at a moments notice (taking into account emergencies and so forth).
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Why would you have to leave the country at a moments notice?
's not like I'm on the run from the law.

As for the driving licence, I don't drive, nor do I ever want to learn, so I don't need one.
 
If the US did this then it would probably be called segragation or some BS. I wouldn't have any problem with that type of ID cards, why should I if i'm a honest legal citizen? If they used the cards in California, half the population would probably be sent back where they came from.
 
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