You are out of uniform, soldier! Where is your *power* armor

RE: You are out of uniform, soldier! Where is your *power* a

[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Jan-18-01 AT 07:17AM (GMT)[p]Hahaha... that's a pretty good one man... ;-)

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damn, screwed up the link here the first time...

"Blessed are those who break the rules."
 
RE: wrong

Can`t you put something else instead of gestapo? I don`t know, something more "falloutish", gestapo is bad taste to say the least...



"shichisho hokoku"
 
Children are the future!!!

Sure, super soldiers would make pretty cool conspiracy movies, but where would the SOUL in the movie-making be? We'd be stuck with a bad “Monkees meet the X-Files” movie featuring an oversized body-builder every damn week!!! God No!!! And now to the important stuff! Ralph Malph was a guy, but a very effeminate one. Look at the episode with Fonzie and the Falcons versus… those other guys. Ol’ Ralph couldn’t even break a damn bottle!!! What a wimp!!!
 
What a goddamn waste of money...

On top of this, the U.S. Government is spending $20 million a tank on 5,000 of these new tank designs that fire 30 incindiary rounds a minute. WHAT A BIG FUCKING WASTE OF TAX MONEY! Like the space program! The U.S. has a big enough military, why can't they try and get rid of poverty or do something useful to humanity with the money. If astronomy and arms-racing until China goes bankrupt is more important than human life, this stuff is okay. BUT IT'S NOT.

Saddam decided to donate 100 million to the U.S.'s poverty--he's a better guy than the stupid military department's head (even though he's a bigoted despot who lets his own people starve and lets sanction-caused deaths currently at a rate of 5,000 per month get higher and higher).
 
RE: What a goddamn waste of money...

>On top of this, the U.S.
>Government is spending $20 million
>a tank on 5,000 of
>these new tank designs that
>fire 30 incindiary rounds a
>minute. WHAT A BIG FUCKING
>WASTE OF TAX MONEY! Like
>the space program! The U.S.
>has a big enough military,
>why can't they try and
>get rid of poverty or
>do something useful to humanity
>with the money. If astronomy
>and arms-racing until China goes
>bankrupt is more important than
>human life, this stuff is
>okay. BUT IT'S NOT.
>
>Saddam decided to donate 100 million
>to the U.S.'s poverty--he's a
>better guy than the stupid
>military department's head (even though
>he's a bigoted despot who
>lets his own people starve
>and lets sanction-caused deaths currently
>at a rate of 5,000
>per month get higher and
>higher).

Because it *does* deal with poverty. Building tanks and other things creates jobs, and there are a LOT of people who's lives depend on making equipment for the military.

The United States doesn't *need* to improve its military at all, but it does. Just like how the USA never had to compete with the USSR, we were *always* ahead, but made up propaganda to build our economy up by providing jobs and establishing ourselves as the superpower of the world.

The military is big money, and wars are *great* ways to deal with any problem inside your country. It creates moral, it builds jobs, it unites a nation, and most importantly it can bail out a dead economy.

Poor people are poor for good reason: They aren't earning enough money because they either can't from lack of skills, or don't want to. You cannot help them simply by giving them money, all you'll have is an unskilled worker with some temporary cash to waste. You can only help them by providing jobs that pay better for their work, and that's what the military can do.

It is not so much the matter of finding the money to pay people, it is finding work to pay people to do.

-Xotor-

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RE: What a goddamn waste of money...

i just wanted to point out that the space program is a big fucking waste of money no matter what anyone says. I know there are some parts of the space program that are exremely valuable like missle defense and whatnot but, Who gives a shit that some computer nerd is driving a 5 million dollar tonka truck around mars adding to his fucking rock collection. if your gonna spend a fortune on something that probably wont work anyway, why not put it into something cool like the military so maybe one day all of us fallout junkies can run around iraq with our goddamn super exoskellatons and show saddam whos runnin the fuckin show.
 
RE: What a goddamn waste of money...

>i just wanted to point out
>that the space program is
>a big fucking waste of
>money no matter what anyone
>says. I know there
>are some parts of the
>space program that are exremely
>valuable like missle defense and
>whatnot but, Who gives a
>shit that some computer nerd
>is driving a 5 million
>dollar tonka truck around mars
>adding to his fucking rock
>collection. if your gonna
>spend a fortune on something
>that probably wont work anyway,
>why not put it into
>something cool like the military
>so maybe one day all
>of us fallout junkies can
>run around iraq with our
>goddamn super exoskellatons and show
>saddam whos runnin the fuckin
>show.

The Simpsons summed it up pretty well when the newscast said:

"And on this flight NASA will be seeing how well ants can move screws around in zero gravity."

Or something to that effect, all I remember was it dealt with ants and screws.

Here's what I think the space program has benefited us:

- Weather Satellites
- GPS Satellites
- Outer space photos of our planet
- Communication Satellites.
- Maybe going to the moon simply to say that we went there.


What is worthless:

- Sending that old dude, John Glenn into outer space. I mean COME ON, like it *really* matters how old people are going to fare in outer space when we're not even going to have people living up there.

- Terrain mapping Mars. They've already lost two multi hundred million dollar to billion dollar satellites on that worthless planet. Do I really care if life or water for that matter was on Mars? Not really, not unless it can talk to me. Seriously, the idea is nice, but unless you've got nothing *better* to spend the money on, don't bother.

- The International Space Station (ISS). More like the United States space station. The United States will be shoving out around $95 BILLION dollars for the ISS whereas the other nations (Canada, Japan, Russia, and the European Space Agency) will be shoving out--get this--$12 billion (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/spacestation.html). Supposedly it will cut down the costs for future missions, but look at what experiments are planned to be performed:
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- Protein crystal structures. Supposedly this will help in medical research to understand viruses and other such problems. The thing is, how will a protein crystal grown in OUTER SPACE accomplish anything more than what is researched in universities already? Perfect protein crystals don't even exist on Earth, why would they be useful there?

- Tissue culturing. It is supposed to allow for testing cancer treatments without risk to patients. The thing is, why does it matter that it is cultured in zero gravity? And why not do it on Earth where it is cheaper and there are more people to do it? I highly doubt zero-gravity will do anything for medicine except for people in outer space, and that isn't the case.

- Life in outer space. Unless we're going to be housing people out there, it isn't really worth the time.

- Metallurgy studies. This is probably the only worthwhile experiment because you can make better quality metals and alloys. However transporting that material up there isn't going to be a pain in the ass. Maybe they should invest in harvesting asteroids.
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Royal waste of time if you ask me.

What should be done in space:

- Harvesting asteroids and other space bodies for materials.
- Global defense network to destroy nuclear missiles and other airborn weapons.
- Better communications satellites for the internet.
- Extremely high quality mapping of our OWN PLANET, not Mars.

Unless we're going to house people (normal people) in outer space, there's no use having "life in space" tests.

[font size=2" color="#CCCCFF]"You ivory tower intellectuals must not lose touch with the world
of industrial growth and hard currency. It is all very well and
good to pursue these high-minded scientific theories, but research
grants are expensive and you must justify your existence by providing
not only knowledge, but concrete and profitable applications as well."

-- CEO Nwabudike Morgan,
"The Ethics of Greed

-Xotor-


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RE: What a goddamn waste of money...

>- The International Space Station (ISS).
> More like the United
>States space station. The
>United States will be shoving
>out around $95 BILLION dollars
>for the ISS whereas the
>other nations (Canada, Japan, Russia,
>and the European Space Agency)
>will be shoving out--get this--$12
>billion (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/spacestation.html).

Well, gee. Aren't the US big and powerful, and richer then those countries? Obviously the bigger man hefts the bigger load, no? The other countries are probably giving their equivalent in accordance to size, wealth, and problems. As for the whole spending-billions-on-unneeded-military business, I think it's stupid. You guys can already virtually wipe any nation off the face of the Earth, why not do something productive instead of building weapons of destruction? Look at Japan. Since they don't have to pay billions for a military (you know about this, Xotor, I'm sure), they have amazing health care, and scientists, technology, etc. They also have the longest average lifespan in the world, though that doesn't directly apply to this.

Feel free to make me feel like an idiot, Xotor.
 
RE: What a goddamn waste of money...

>Well, gee. Aren't the US big
>and powerful, and richer then
>those countries? Obviously the bigger
>man hefts the bigger load,
>no?

Yeah, but when we're paying 90% of the bill it isn't so "international" now is it? Let's see, Canada's making the robot arm, Japan is making some kind of lab, so is the European Union, I have no clue about Russia, and we're building the rest and hauling it all up at a cost of $10,000 a POUND.

>The other countries are
>probably giving their equivalent in
>accordance to size, wealth, and
>problems.

Maybe Russia, but the others could afford to give a little more, especially Japan.

>As for the whole
>spending-billions-on-unneeded-military business, I think it's
>stupid. You guys can already
>virtually wipe any nation off
>the face of the Earth,
>why not do something productive
>instead of building weapons of
>destruction?

What, do you mean with nukes? Nukes are pretty much taboo when it comes to conflicts. We spend a lot on high-tech military weaponry in order to make it so we can settle conflicts without sending anyone to settle it. Cruise missiles are great, and although expensive, they pact a punch wherever you want them to without sending people to do it.

And hey, it's good business too!

>Look at Japan. Since
>they don't have to pay
>billions for a military (you
>know about this, Xotor, I'm
>sure), they have amazing health
>care, and scientists, technology, etc.
>They also have the longest
>average lifespan in the world,
>though that doesn't directly apply
>to this.

Japan is protected by the United States. That policy was formulated at the end of WWII. Essentially the idea was that Japan was *never* to have a national military and the USA would provide any needed defense.

It sure would be *NICE* to not have to spend so much on the military, but as the WORLD POLICE, the backbone of the United Nations, NATO, and modern western civilization, WE HAVE TO, it's expected of us.

Maybe military expenditures are the key to the United States' good economy however. The way you boost your economy is to provide people with a jobs which in turn makes people spend more money and increases the economy of the nation. The military is a great "job dump." Hell, that's what the Cold War was all about anyway, boosting the United States' economy by making up propaganda about the Soviet threat.

-Xotor-

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RE: What a goddamn waste of money...

well, everyone thinks that the US is this big superpower and they need to downsize the military and quit making so many nuclear missles. i just wanted to say that if the US was hit by a couple unexpected nukes (this is pretty damn unlikely) than we wouldn't be so big of a superpower anymore would we?
 
RE: What a goddamn waste of money...

>well, everyone thinks that the US
>is this big superpower and
>they need to downsize the
>military and quit making so
>many nuclear missles.

Actually practically no nuclear missiles are being made, only refitted with better technology. If anything the number of nuclear weapons have gone down.

And what if "everyone" thinks we should downsize our military? It certainly is a good way to provide jobs and ensure that we are taken seriously.

>i
>just wanted to say that
>if the US was hit
>by a couple unexpected nukes
>(this is pretty damn unlikely)
>than we wouldn't be so
>big of a superpower anymore
>would we?

Why not? For the most part, the only "unexpected" nukes would be from close range submarines and saboteurs. Even then I wouldn't expect those nukes to seriously wipe out the military in any way.

It'll take more than a few nukes to down this nation.

-Xotor-

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