Man, you guys are REEEEEEEALLY pissed...

[Swiffness]

I just saw the BOS trailer and it looks to be the next Daikatana.

But from all the posts I've viewed in this forum, I get the impression that:

ALL consoles are crap, if you like them, you're a moron.

ALL action games are crap, if you like them, you're a moron.

ALL Fallout games other than Fallout 1 are garbage. If you like any of them, you're not a "real" Fallout fan.

ALL RPGs, other than turn-based, 3rd-person view, single player RPGs, are crap. If you like them you're a moron.

And finally...

"Chucky" is the antichrist. He should be tortured to death and his family exterminated.

 

[Azarskittar]

Although I don't like Fallout: BOS at all, I have to say I agree with him.

 

[Montez]

I just saw the BOS trailer and it looks to be the next Daikatana.

But from all the posts I've viewed in this forum, I get the impression that:

ALL consoles are crap, if you like them, you're a moron.

Nah, I doubt most people here feel that way. Console games are for the most part action-oriented, and with a few exceptions lack the depth of PC games, but I personally would own every console out there if I had the money. It's more just disbelief that IPlay would make a FO game for a console instead of a PC, I think.

ALL action games are crap, if you like them, you're a moron.

Same as above

ALL Fallout games other than Fallout 1 are garbage. If you like any of them, you're not a "real" Fallout fan.

Some have this opinion, some don't. I think FO was a much better game than FO2, but I enjoyed FO2 a lot as well. Tactics was a let down for me, but many people here really liked it and still make mods for it.

ALL RPGs, other than turn-based, 3rd-person view, single player RPGs, are crap. If you like them you're a moron.

I think you're reading the PoS forum too much. In the GD forum many people have listed games other than this type in their Top Ten Games lists.

And finally...

"Chucky" is the antichrist. He should be tortured to death and his family exterminated.

I think the antichrist would be smarter than Chuckie is.

 

[Gus]

ALL Fallout games other than Fallout 1 are garbage. If you like any of them, you're not a "real" Fallout fan.
.

Fallout 2 is a great game! You're the moron Swiffer!

 

[Swiffness]

Fallout 2 is a great game! You're the moron Swiffer!

Idiot.

You're obviously not a REAL Fallout fan if you like F2.

 

[Ozrat]

I just saw the BOS trailer and it looks to be the next Daikatana.

I thought Kaikatana bombed...?

Well, its kind of hard to have nice comments in bastard forum born out of hatred... Besides, Chucky is the AntiFallout, not the AntiChrist. Get the facts straight, yo!

P.S. Is your name supposed to be Swiffness or Swiftness?

 

[Azarskittar]

I thought Kaikatana bombed...?

No, it was a flop.

 

[Ozrat]

I said bombed!
bombed=flop

Not da bomb!
da bomb=da shit

 

[Vermaxx]

Same as above

You don't like ANY action games? Not even Metal Gear? I do think its harsh to say liking them makes you a moron, particularly when playing PC games of ANY genre is not exactly grounds for acceptance to Mensa. Fallout is great but sometimes you need something faster-paced.

Some have this opinion, some don't. I think FO was a much better game than FO2, but I enjoyed FO2 a lot as well. Tactics was a let down for me, but many people here really liked it and still make mods for it.

I'm not trying to insult you with this one. What did you think it was? I looked at it and said "Oh cool, Diablo hack'n'slash in the Fallout universe!" I did not expect character development, plot, conversation, etc. In short, I did not expect an RPG. I don't really see how someone could have been mislead.

Or are you more referring to the game differences, such as the GLUT of weapons, ammo, and coordinated enemies in overly-large bases and cities? I must admit, it was Fallout in name and equipment only, but I find it fun if you just want to shoot things for a while.

And just so everyone doesn't brand me an FBOS supporter, I'm not. From what I've seen its just a rehash of Tactics on the XBOX, and I already bought that game for a superior machine with superior controls.

 

[Gus]

You're obviously not a REAL Fallout fan if you like F2

EDIT: why bother.

 

[Montez]

Same as above

You don't like ANY action games? Not even Metal Gear? I do think its harsh to say liking them makes you a moron, particularly when playing PC games of ANY genre is not exactly grounds for acceptance to Mensa. Fallout is great but sometimes you need something faster-paced.

No, I meant "refer to the reasons I gave above". I like action games, and I think Metal Gear Solid is one of the best all-around games I've ever played. I said that I would buy every console out there if I could afford it, not that action gamers were morons and consoles sucked.

Some have this opinion, some don't. I think FO was a much better game than FO2, but I enjoyed FO2 a lot as well. Tactics was a let down for me, but many people here really liked it and still make mods for it.

I'm not trying to insult you with this one. What did you think it was? I looked at it and said "Oh cool, Diablo hack'n'slash in the Fallout universe!" I did not expect character development, plot, conversation, etc. In short, I did not expect an RPG. I don't really see how someone could have been mislead.

Or are you more referring to the game differences, such as the GLUT of weapons, ammo, and coordinated enemies in overly-large bases and cities? I must admit, it was Fallout in name and equipment only, but I find it fun if you just want to shoot things for a while.

I knew it would be 90% combat, I just expected it to be a better game all around. I loved combat in FO and FO2, and I was expecting it to be the same in FOT - instead they just copied Jagged Alliance's combat system. Also, there are many tactical games that came out before it that were far superior, so it was a let down in that category as well. I thought the graphics were uglier than the previous Fallouts, and I didn't like it's plot or adaption of the Fallout setting. I don't really think it was that bad a game overall, it just didn't meet my expectations and didn't hold my interest.

 

[Odin]

I think Montez kinda captures it, but as to FOT..

The combat in JA2 was much, much better than FOT, but I did play through FOT (believe it or not) and sometimes it was funny other times no. The main reason we don't like FOT is that it has the Fallout name branded to it, yet it stayes from the main story/setting (ie no gas/oil left in the world or just scares etc..etc..)..

 

[Sykor]

ALL Fallout games other than Fallout 1 are garbage. If you like any of them, you're not a "real" Fallout fan.

ALL RPGs, other than turn-based, 3rd-person view, single player RPGs, are crap. If you like them you're a moron.

Are you insulting Fallout 2?. Fallout 2 was equal to, if not greater than Fallout 1. And whats with you and this RPG business. There are many great RPG's that arn't turn based, 3rd person of singleplayer. Morrowind, Baldurs gate 1 and 2, arcanum, daggerfall, icewind dale 1 and 2, diablo 1 and 2. Don't talk out of your ass.

 

[VooDoo_Dolly]

Yeah... I think Arcanum and Morrowind are very good games. Arcanum has some very good ideas but was a bit boring. And i can't play Morrowind without making notes of everything
Still think that Fallout 2 is the best RPG ever... and much better than 1.[/quote]

 

[k-7]

Fallout 2 is a great game! You're the moron Swiffer!

Idiot.

You're obviously not a REAL Fallout fan if you like F2.

wtf?

whats a REAL Fallout Fan??? Are u stupid or something?

Someone who says "Fallout 2 is a good game" is a Fallout
Fan. Only because there are people who thing FO1 is better than
FO2, that does not mean that a REALFOF have to like
FO1 and dislike FO2. I never played FO1 and i LOVE FO2. But
i don´t thing i would like FO1, because someone telled me
theres a timelimit ore something, but im sure i will buy it someday,
just because i want to know what happend with the vault dweller,
Master, tand and more.
But now... Fallout 2 ist the best game i EVER EVER EVER EVER saw. And i play computer games since 1991 and began with a commodore64 .

So don´t say something about Fo2 or i mutate to Frank Horrigan

 

[alec]

The main reason we don't like FOT is that it has the Fallout name branded to it, yet it stayes from the main story/setting (ie no gas/oil left in the world or just scares etc..etc..)...

Hm. I don't want to start the same discussion over and over again, but I still have some problems with the story/setting issue. Where in Fallout Tactics is it stated that the cars still run on gasoline? Nowhere. I agree that the exhaustion fumes are a dead give-away that such is indeed the case, but still. And the Gas Station special encounter isn't proof either, it doesn't really work, does it? It looks like it hasn't been in use since..., well, since the outbreak of the war. And what with all the...

* sees Roshambo move closer *

Uhm...

Anyway, I was thinking this: what if Fallout Tactics would have been given a totally different name (let say, "Post-Apoc Troopers") and would have let out the name "Fallout" altogether? Wouldn't anyone have said: "Hey, hasn't anyone noticed yet that that new game, "Post-Apoc Troopers", is like really really influenced by Fallout?" You get the point.

I thought the graphics were uglier than the previous Fallouts, and I didn't like it's plot or adaption of the Fallout setting.

How can you possibly say that? The graphics of Fallout and Fallout 2 were nice in the nineties (when I still had a 15" screen), but when I play those games nowadays on my 19" screen, I find the graphics totally crappy. Fallout Tactics has superior graphics: higher resolutions, anti-aliased tiles, anti-aliased characters. Or wait, you are of course referring to the hairy Deathclaws, right? You hate all, all of the graphics in Fallout Tactics because the Deathclaws have hair and aren't reptile-like as they were in Fallout and Fallout 2? Hm. Right. Okay. I get it.

Last, but not least: I think I kind of agree with Swiffness. We can't possibly deny that there are some - not to say: a whole bunch - of Fallout-purists on NMA. I personally don't seem to care as much for the strict continuity of the setting and plot. I like the overall atmosphere of the Fallout universe. The loneliness, the deserted wastelands, the ruins, the drugs, the wacky weapons, mutants, ghouls, bordellos... These elements were present in Fallout Tactics as well. So they made a few mistakes, so some of the developers were probably morons, so what? They made a better effort than those f***-ups that are making FOPOS, right?

* feels Roshambo breathing down his neck *

Bwah, you know how I think about it. I'll keep quiet (for) now.

 

[Ratty Sr.]

ALL consoles are crap, if you like them, you're a moron.

Yeah, they are. But that doesn't mean they can't be fun.

ALL action games are crap, if you like them, you're a moron.

Games that offer a lot of mindless action are good, games that offer nothing BUT mindless action are crap. Example: Quake 3 is crap, Half Life is not.

ALL Fallout games other than Fallout 1 are garbage. If you like any of them, you're not a "real" Fallout fan.

You read too many Roshambo's posts...

ALL RPGs, other than turn-based, 3rd-person view, single player RPGs, are crap. If you like them you're a moron.

Same as previous.

"Chucky" is the antichrist. He should be tortured to death and his family exterminated.

Thanks for the tip.

 

[k-7]

Hmm.... Fallout 3 with the same graphic as fallout 1 and 2 would be enough. For a good rpg u don´t need good graphics!
FO2 is the best game with that graphic!
Im sure fallout3 will have a better graphic than 1&2 but if u ask me its more important to make a good story, good quests, etc. like in FO1&2 as an huge engine with murder graphics and a storyline like Super Mario bros.
FO-Tactics don´t exists for me, because ITS NOT Fallout...., its just a wannabestoryclone with better graphics.

And Fallout for console..... that must be an idea from someone
who knows how a headshot feels......

 

[Ratty Sr.]

Ratty's recipe for a game:

50% gameplay
30% graphics
15% story
5% sound

So don't dis graphics. Ugly graphics are the main reason why I don't play Fallout 2 anymore. And one of the main reasons why I can't stand any of Troika's games. Give us smooth and crispy 3D!

 

[JJ86]

Swiffer, when you try to oversimplify things by using blanket statements it generally makes you appear to be less than intelligent. Speaking for myself, I don't play console games anymore. I used to but then got bored with the quality. Maybe I grew up too much and looked for something more interesting. I enjoy some action games but there is a glut of them so I don't buy them all, only the better ones that have something that separates them from the rest. RPG's are really a specialty game niche, there really are specific definitions for the genre which very few computer games meet the criteria. Just because some people apply the name to a game like Half-Life or Deus-Ex does not make it an RPG.

Daikatana? I've barely heard of it and never played it. Seriously nobody wants to kill anyone involved with Interplay or it would have been done a long time ago.