If Centaurs could be ridden and knights in shining metal armour rode them would they have the speed to catch Floater driven road scooters ?
Fauna, Flora, Factions, and Facilities of the Wasteland
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eissa
Artanis "Altáriel" Nerwen Nos Finwe
Centaurs are too slow from what I've seen both in Old Fallout and Nu Fallout. Horses are just simply much biologically efficient and people know how to act as alpha leader of the herd of horses. Milennium of selective breeding, genetic memory, you know think it like dogs. Sure you can use molerats, but dogs are just way different league in companion animal hierarchy.
Gizmojunk
Antediluvian as Feck
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PaxVenire
Vault Dweller
Silly me, I’ve been so focused on my rewrites that I completely neglected that this thread is for all ideas. I’m from Florida, so this was bound to happen eventually:
Caimán:
The Caimán, or formerly known as the American Alligator, is a sneaky predator that roams the Sunshine State. While radiation induced mutation has given some animals a larger figure, the opposite can be said for the Caimán.
Once a large apex predator in fresh waters, they are now much smaller, the size of what one would grow to in reproductive size.
In trade for its grandiose size, it’s gained the ability to run on its hind legs as well as camouflage itself.
Caimán:
The Caimán, or formerly known as the American Alligator, is a sneaky predator that roams the Sunshine State. While radiation induced mutation has given some animals a larger figure, the opposite can be said for the Caimán.
Once a large apex predator in fresh waters, they are now much smaller, the size of what one would grow to in reproductive size.
In trade for its grandiose size, it’s gained the ability to run on its hind legs as well as camouflage itself.
eissa
Artanis "Altáriel" Nerwen Nos Finwe
Can't wait for Fallout game/media set in Gulf Commonwealth/Southern states. I am thinking of Lousiana and how it is basically the more cosmopolitan and having plantation owners (and unfortunately slavery) compared to more rural eastward states. I even started played more Left 4 Dead 2 last three maps just to get the vibe (The Parish, Hard Rain, Swamp Fever).
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PaxVenire
Vault Dweller
I wish Fallout Tactics 2 had design docs, it was supposed to be set in FL. I’ve always wanted so bad to see a Fallout in my home state, closest I’ve got so far is the Fallout Miami mod coming out, but from some of the stuff I’ve seen they’re adding into the mod, I really cant say I’m excited.
eissa
Artanis "Altáriel" Nerwen Nos Finwe
That's too bad, but I only wonder why?
I remember some of the proposed ideas for Fallout Tactics to include more humanoid esque alligators which may have been based on Deathclaws but designed for amphibious warfare.
And another of course was the mutant jungle idea which I also would like to use for my own setting.
I don't know much about Fallout Miami but I read their website and I am rather disappointed that we have the Enclave back again because some people are obsessed about them.
And another of course was the mutant jungle idea which I also would like to use for my own setting.
I don't know much about Fallout Miami but I read their website and I am rather disappointed that we have the Enclave back again because some people are obsessed about them.
PaxVenire
Vault Dweller
Yeah the Enclave being back again, the protagonist of the mod not being original and forcing you to play as the FO4 protagonist is something I really dislike, the theme park-like Hotline Miami raiders, the Scarface rip-off faction, pre-war America having a comic convention, the skeletons that have been sitting perfectly on lawn chairs for 200 years, etc.
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How come? This would be a Fallout 4 mod that is also sort of a DLC.
Because of the distance between Boston and Miami?
Regarding protagonist I have no stake in this as I neither like or dislike the protagonist of Fallout 4 as Bethesda's attempt to give the character a whole pre-game background could not generate any sympathy.
Well it does not speak of originality though I could see old Obsidian also might throwing in a Scarfare reference if they had done a campaign in the Miami setting.
I don't completely hate this, but after two hundred years there would not be anything left.
I think this was also a criticism of mine when I first saw the trailer. The designers having the idea that the war just happened a decade or so ago. Kind of the same as with the comic convention.
Plus I think no one really was caught by surprise by the nukes, even the people who were engaged in daily activities as the sirens had probably gone off ten or more minutes earlier with everyone now being in a panic.
PaxVenire
Vault Dweller
The diatance between Boston and Miami is one thing, I don't see it fitting at all with the base game, but that’s not my main reason. I simply just do not care for the Fallout 4 protagonist. Like you say, Bethesda wrote the entire character. His job, his wife, his son, where he lives, his life as a military man, his family history going all the way back to WWII. Everything about the character isn’t what I’d have picked for him and I genuinely do not care for his story. I find the main quest of FO4 appalling. So when I heard that Miami was going to be more of a DLC than original mod and that you had to play your FO4 character, I really didn’t care about the mod anymore not gonna lie. I’ll still play it, but that really turns me off.
I wouldn’t mind a Scarface reference, but it’s not really a reference anymore in my opinion when a faction or storyline is ripped it 1:1 from the movie. References are usually subtle. For example, the Gomorrah mafia is a clear reference to the Italian mob in early Las Vegas, and even the Godfather, but it doesn’t beat you over the head with it.
I think the convention center is a slaver market in the mod, so it’s technically not still a comic book convention. My reason for not liking this though is it just feels silly to me. Like I’m not trying to say pre-war America didn’t have any recreation or anything, but a comic con doesn’t fit into the pre-war Fallout America for me. It’s like in the New California mod for New Vegas where some vault dwellers were playing Dungeons and Dragons. It’s just eyerolling to me. Doesn’t fit imo.
Exactly, this is the kind of stiff that makes the game feel silly to me. Bethesda does this all the time in their games, skeletons jacking off when the bombs exploded, skeletons on roller coasters with their hands in the air, taking a shit, all just perfectly in position. Feels like a theme park attraction to me more than a believable world. It’s a small detail, but like other small details, they add up into making the world just cartoony and unimersive.
Well if the gang members all act and behave like Al Pacino's Tony Montana I would also find it a stupid faction.
The modders may bring up the Kings as an example, but what made the King's work was that they were a one time thing.
If every part of the Fallout world has its celebrity or movie impersonators then it stops being unique. Even more, I know there would be groups that would seek to imitate other cultures (see cargo cultures), but part of the fun is that they misinterpret the original cultures' reason or meaning for doing this.
I did not like the Atom cat greasers because why would they know about pre-war greasers, the way they talk and behave. They would have to have a source to draw from and for some reason it would make sense, perhaps even being beneficial to act like this, rather than just parroting the past.
That also goes for that group of mobster raiders in that Vault, the ones that acted like 20s gangster.
Why? Other than that the designers perhaps wanted to copy that from Fallout New Vegas there was absolutely no point in doing so.
Most people in the wasteland would not even know what these people's behavior and dressing style would be referring to and just think they are nuts.
This doesn't completely bother me. I would imagine any D&D analogue being more likely to survive in a Vault than in the wasteland.
Only thing I would not do with it is make it some unnecessary mini game in a Fallout game which Bethesda would probably do.
Sorry, I don't have anything to comment on the rest you wrote.
The main reason why I would not play this mod is because it is more Fallout 4. Miami as imagined by people who only know or who prefer Bethesda's take on Fallout which includes the elements you mentioned.
PaxVenire
Vault Dweller
I do think there are some interesting Fallout 4 mods in the making. Fallout Cascadia seems interesting to me, Fallout 4 New Vegas remake is something I’ll be playing. The one in London has my attention. Most of all though, I just want the localization of Sonora in Fallout 2.
eissa
Artanis "Altáriel" Nerwen Nos Finwe
This remind me so much of those mutants from The Hills Have Eyes.
PaxVenire
Vault Dweller
Membrain•Prosthesis:
Membrain•Prosthesis was a Pre-War prothetic lab in C.I.T. contracted by the Department of Civil Defense during the late days of the Resource Wars. With the war spanning 23 years as of 2075, over 56% of America’s fighting-fit men were either out fo commission due to injury, taken POW, desertion, or loss of limb.
Simply put, America was running out of soldiers faster than they could draft and train them. To make ends meet, Membrain•Prosthesis was contracted to manufacture prosthetic arms and legs of the most basic function for warfare so those on the field who lost a limb can just have a new one slapped on and sent back to the front. A second chance for glory to the American people. These new arms and legs weren’t articulate or special in any way. The arm was made to hold a rifle and the leg was made to balance the soldier. Because of this, they were used basically as human shields, being sent into enemy lines, unknowingly ordered to “scout ahead” of a minefield or sniper territory. When new of this got back home, completely civil unrest erupted in D.C. The DCD was forced to recall prosthetic troops and send them home, however the contract wasn't ended. In 2076, Membrain•Prosthesis was in the midst of testing out prototype prosthetic arms and legs with full articulation. The goal was to resume what they were doing previously under the nose of brown nosers. The bombs fell before the project was complete, C.I.T. reduced to cinders. However, rumors has it a backup set of prints exist somewhere in the Pentagon lower levels.
Membrain•Prosthesis was a Pre-War prothetic lab in C.I.T. contracted by the Department of Civil Defense during the late days of the Resource Wars. With the war spanning 23 years as of 2075, over 56% of America’s fighting-fit men were either out fo commission due to injury, taken POW, desertion, or loss of limb.
Simply put, America was running out of soldiers faster than they could draft and train them. To make ends meet, Membrain•Prosthesis was contracted to manufacture prosthetic arms and legs of the most basic function for warfare so those on the field who lost a limb can just have a new one slapped on and sent back to the front. A second chance for glory to the American people. These new arms and legs weren’t articulate or special in any way. The arm was made to hold a rifle and the leg was made to balance the soldier. Because of this, they were used basically as human shields, being sent into enemy lines, unknowingly ordered to “scout ahead” of a minefield or sniper territory. When new of this got back home, completely civil unrest erupted in D.C. The DCD was forced to recall prosthetic troops and send them home, however the contract wasn't ended. In 2076, Membrain•Prosthesis was in the midst of testing out prototype prosthetic arms and legs with full articulation. The goal was to resume what they were doing previously under the nose of brown nosers. The bombs fell before the project was complete, C.I.T. reduced to cinders. However, rumors has it a backup set of prints exist somewhere in the Pentagon lower levels.
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Hardboiled Android
Vault Fossil
I thought the direction you were going to go with was that the hands/arms were semi-autonomous and can still be found wandering the wasteland, strangling hapless passer-bys
Gizmojunk
Antediluvian as Feck
I would not mind using some of the better ideas mentioned here for my Fallout Texas ideas, with permission of the original creators of course.
I don't have any ideas for new corporations, companies, military installations, or research facilities outside Clone Station which I once mentioned and the HYDRA fusion power station which would have been the US' first fusion power station had the station come online.
Its technology is actually based on the propulsion system that was being developed for the Enclave's starship by a SpaceX expy.
I would like to come up with more such ideas for the setting such as a Monsanto expy.
Fallout Lonestar had a good one that I liked that was called Magnifico (after the wife of the founder) Agricola which was a biotech and chemicals manufacturer which among other things was specialized in agriculture but also producing materials for the government like the real Monsanto such as chemical agents.
In that mod Magnifico had developed new kinds of plants that could grow in the harshest of conditions. A small community had rediscovered the seeds in the Magnifico laboratory and was able to survive and prosper in the harsh climate of the Texas wasteland.
I don't have any ideas for new corporations, companies, military installations, or research facilities outside Clone Station which I once mentioned and the HYDRA fusion power station which would have been the US' first fusion power station had the station come online.
Its technology is actually based on the propulsion system that was being developed for the Enclave's starship by a SpaceX expy.
I would like to come up with more such ideas for the setting such as a Monsanto expy.
Fallout Lonestar had a good one that I liked that was called Magnifico (after the wife of the founder) Agricola which was a biotech and chemicals manufacturer which among other things was specialized in agriculture but also producing materials for the government like the real Monsanto such as chemical agents.
In that mod Magnifico had developed new kinds of plants that could grow in the harshest of conditions. A small community had rediscovered the seeds in the Magnifico laboratory and was able to survive and prosper in the harsh climate of the Texas wasteland.
PaxVenire
Vault Dweller
What ideas did you have in mind specifically?
I would have to go through the topic again, but any interesting ideas regarding defense contractors, regular civilian companies, interesting sounding places and facilities, and of course mutants and factions.
I tend to be rather cautious perhaps when trying to come up with new mutants. I for example don't want to come up with mutant types which roles are already filled by Super Mutants and Ghouls.
I would rather keep psykers rare as I don't want to add psionics as a regular or reoccurring plot device, let alone a gameplay mechanic in the Fallout franchise. Psykers would be as mythical as unicorns.